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Well, CaroleW, I have followed up all the leads and I am quite sure Florence was the Draper's Assistant in the census for 1901 and1911.  I am also fairly sure that her mother was Sophia Kirkman, daughter of George and Emma Kirkman.  Beyond those points I think the rest is reasonable speculation, while the 'John' of Flo's birth certificate remains a mystery.  It may have been a name substituted for the real father - I agree with you that she may have used her grandfather on her marriage certificate.  Still no clue as to the origin of 'Fraser'.  All good fun sifting through the possibilities though, and I have appreciated your input - thanks again.

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Yes, CaroleW, I found the 1901 entry and it does look promising - this Florence appears again as a drapers assistant in the 1911 census, but the birth address is stated only as 'London' - getting closer,  methinks.  Not sure about Sophia, though...she may have been Flo's mother using John's name without marriage being in the picture. I just need something to connect the jigsaw pieces.  I really appreciate your input - thanks.

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Wow, CaroleW, that was fast. Yes, I do have the birth certificate and Sophia's maiden name was Kirkman, so she did not have to re-embroider her handkerchiefs. I'll follow up on your 1891 ref - many thanks for that.

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Florence Fraser Kirkman was born to John (Publican) and Sophia Kirkman in Mile End on 29 January 1881.  She married John Rothwell Haslam in Northampton 10 June 1918 (where her father was named as George - a mechanical Engineer-deceased).  However, I can find no trace of Florence or her parents in any UK Census, shipping or other online records.  Please. any ideas on where they may have been or where else I can look for them would be greatly appreciated?

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London and Middlesex / Re: Rope Walk, Sunbury, U.D.
« on: Friday 11 December 15 20:58 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the 1901 list, ShaunJ - will add the names to my list of suspects.  No luck as yet, but still digging.

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Europe Resources & Offers / Re: MALTA FAMILY HISTORY
« on: Tuesday 08 December 15 03:27 GMT (UK)  »
Greetings bendywendy,
In April 1901 my grandmother. Mary Barnes, was a 23 year old servant in London.  In November 1903, she married John Rothwell Haslam (a British soldier who she did not previously know) in Valletta, Malta.  I have no idea exactly why or when she went to Malta, or how she got there.  Do you know how young people would have travelled from London to Malta in the early 1900s? - Was it by train across Europe to Italy and then ferry to Malta or were there ships from London or Southampton that stopped off at the island?  The period is a blank space in my story of her so I would appreciate anything you can tell me.  Incidentally, her address in Malta before her marriage (according to the marriage certificate), was 26 Piazza Miratore, Floriana - do you know what that area would have been like in 1903?
Thanks, JB

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Northamptonshire / Re: Seeking Mary Pywell of Benefield c1800
« on: Monday 07 December 15 01:54 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Nicola Pywell, Tony Pie and Ruskie - my apologies for not responding to you earlier.  Some health issues have kept me out of circulation for a while, but I hope to get back into family matters in the near future - meanwhile I will take a closer look at all the info you have provided and try to update my findings.

Thanks again guys...

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London and Middlesex / Re: Rope Walk, Sunbury, U.D.
« on: Sunday 06 December 15 10:18 GMT (UK)  »
Wow, I hadn't thought about using WWI service records - learn something new every day - Thanks for that ShaunJ.  I'll start doing a check on the names in the lists and see if anything or anyone familiar emerges.

I have already checked out the family in Rope Walk listed in the 1911 census, but no joy from that investigation, ciderdrinker.

rosie99, the informant on the death certificate was her sister, who was living in outer Surrey, with her husband and children throughout the war period and appeared to have no connection with Sunbury.

And, yes, Imber, I have read up on the background to 'Rope Walks', but there is no doubt that the location was Sunbury U. D. (Urban District) which, from 1894, comprised the town and parish of Sunbury-on-Thames until it was expanded in 1930.

Thanks everyone, JB.


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London and Middlesex / Rope Walk, Sunbury, U.D.
« on: Saturday 05 December 15 06:10 GMT (UK)  »
My grandmother's 1916 death certificate states that she died, aged 40, at 17 Rope Walk, Sunbury U.D., away from her own home and family in Bow.  I am trying to find out who lived at No 17, or what it may have been.  From my view 'down under', Rope Walk appears on todays Google to be a very narrow walled pathway without any houses.  The closest I have come to identifying any buildings is the 1911 UK Census which lists a family living at 119 Rope Walk.  Does anyone have any knowledge of Rope Walk or its inhabitants around 1916?   

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