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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Parents for Philip Waugh
« on: Tuesday 23 August 11 12:14 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to trace the parents of Philip WAUGH, born in 1852.

The 1861 census shows Philip, age 9. living with his uncle George PARKIN in Long Benton. His place of birth is shown as Moor House(?), Northumberland.

1871 shows Philip still living with his uncle in Long Benton but his place of birth is now shown as Long Benton

In September 1874 Philip married Agnes MAUGHAN in St Andrew's.

In the 1881 census Philip & Agnes are shown under the name PARKIN, living in South Gosforth and place of birth is Killingworth.

The 1891 census still shows the name PARKIN, living in Long Benton and place of birth Northumberland.

1901 census shows Philip reverting to the name WAUGH, living in South Gosforth and born in West ?

Any assistance gratefully received.

 

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Shropshire Completed Look up Requests / Re: William Beech, West Felton
« on: Monday 16 May 11 10:28 BST (UK)  »
I have a copy of the birth certificate for William's son Thomas and his mother was an Elizabeth Beech, formerly Roberts, so the December 1855 marriage in Pontfadog does seem relevant. Thomas's place of birth is shown as The Rhos, St Martins, the same as his mother's residence recorded on the certificate.
On google maps I searched for The Rhos, St Martins and came up with Rhos Cottage, Quinta, Weston Rhyn, Oswestry. Is it a coincidence that the address is Quinta and records have him as born in Quinton, Oswestry?

Dave

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Shropshire Completed Look up Requests / Re: William Beech, West Felton
« on: Saturday 07 May 11 05:19 BST (UK)  »
Thanks again. I found that same census entry only yesterday but I am awaiting Thomas's birth certificate to confirm his mother's name.

I found an 1841 entry for a William Beach, age 25. The census page gives the location as 'A detached part named Cefnymaes in the township of Blodwel, in the Parish of Llanyblodwel'. It's located only 6 miles from Oswestry but in the opposite direction to his later locations.

1851 has a William Beech at Cabin House Farm, Middleton, age 36

1861 has him in Ruabon, age 45, as a lodger

1871 he is in West Felton, age 57 living with his mother

1881 has a William Beach, age 67 living at School House, Ford (Atcham) and a wife Martha

1883 Q1 has the death of a William Beach in Atcham.

That all appears to point to the same person.

When I receive the birth certificate I will confirm whether that also appears to be the marriage for William. Pontfadog is less than 8 miles from Oswestry, going over the hills.

The question then is what happened between the marriage in Dec 1855, registered in Wrexham, the birth of Thomas in Dec 1856, registered in Oswestry and 1861 when Thomas is living with his grandparents and William is a lodger in Ruabon.

Regards

Dave

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Shropshire Completed Look up Requests / Re: William Beech, West Felton
« on: Wednesday 04 May 11 07:25 BST (UK)  »
I'm going to order a birth certificate for William's son Thomas, which should give me a bit more information. I will report back.

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Shropshire Completed Look up Requests / Re: William Beech, West Felton
« on: Saturday 30 April 11 06:07 BST (UK)  »
Thanks yet again for clearing things up. Living in Spain I don't have a map of Great Britain any more and Google Maps only gave me Wooton near Bridgenorth, hence my reference to being so far from West Felton. Clearly, they were not that far away!

Although William was baptised in Ellesmere in 1813 all his siblings were baptised in West Felton, starting in 1814 so I assume William would have spent his younger years in West Felton with his parents.
The William Beech in 1841 in Drayton Parva looks less likely to be him but the William Beech in 1851 working as a servant (ag. labourer) at Cabin House Farm, Middleton is not that far from West Felton.

William's son Thomas was born in Quinton, Oswestry in 1856 and in 1861 was living with his grandparents Thomas and Elizabeth in West Felton. Perhaps William didn't have a wife. I'll just keep looking.

Dave

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Shropshire Completed Look up Requests / Re: William Beech, West Felton
« on: Friday 29 April 11 05:44 BST (UK)  »
Thanks again claire.t

The list of siblings is great, much more information to go on.

Still can't find more information on William' wife. I found a marriage in 1839 of a William Beech in Market Drayton, but no wife is listed on FreeBMD. That would tie in with the 1841 census of a William & Elizabeth Beech, both aged 25, living in Drayton Parva. I'm trying to fill the gaps after then.

Without the children's names I would never have found the 1841 census record for Thomas & Elizabeth Beech. For a start their ages are wrong, being 20 years younger than they were. By 1851 they are 65 and 62. It is a puzzle as to why they are so far away from West Felton, where all the children were baptised, and where they were living again in 1851.

Thanks again

DaveinSpain
 

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Shropshire Completed Look up Requests / Re: William Beech, West Felton
« on: Thursday 28 April 11 06:55 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks claire.t and crisane, that certainly seems to be him.
1841 census, William Beech (25) and Elizabeth Beech (25) could be him in Drayton Parva.
1851 census, where is wife? His son Thomas is not born until 1856.
I'm also interested in any siblings. From the dates you provided William is likely to be the oldest

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Shropshire Completed Look up Requests / COMPLETED - William Beech, West Felton
« on: Sunday 24 April 11 07:38 BST (UK)  »
Any help gratefully received for information on William Beech born about 1814.

1871 Census: Aged 57 and widowed, living with mother Elizabeth in West Felton. Born in Haughton(?)
1861 Census his son Thomas living with grandparents Thomas and Elizabeth in West Felton

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Cheshire Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage Look Up please, Chester
« on: Friday 18 March 11 15:14 GMT (UK)  »
I believe it is her, hence my reference to not having found a Thomas Jones yet. Until Andycand responded I didn't have the name Thomas Jones to look for.
This 1871 census, plus 1891 and 1901 showed she never having moved home more than 3-400 yards. Yorke Street (1871) leads away from Wrexham town centre, into Mount Street (1901) and Mount Pleasant (1891) was just beyond the far end of Mount street and were demolished between 1891 and 1895 to make way for the Wrexham - Ellesmere railway line.

Dave 

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