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South Africa / Re: Children's Friend Society
« on: Monday 14 August 17 21:19 BST (UK)  »
Hi Maria

I had another look at Geoff Blackburn's book and C.F. Beyers took 2 other boys from the "Abberton", Arthur J Read and Wm Cowling, but that was the only time he took any of the Society children.  I think C.F.Beyers may be Christiaan Frederik Beyers, 21.03.1786-10.08.1886 who lived at Uityk, Stellenbosch, Western Cape. He was a Boer farmer.  I had a quick look on, and found a Thomas Cook buried at Wynberg Cemetery, together with his wife Ellen, and son James.  Thomas b. 12.05.1823, d. 18.08.1877; Ellen b. 20.04.1832 d. 15.03.1909; James b. 31.07.1857, d. 17.07.1876.  Thomas' date of birth 1823 would put him at about the right age for your ancestor, and if it was he who was sent to Stellenbosch he may well have married and stayed in the Cape Town area.

My ancestor was Charles Dubber, one of the first children sent to South Africa.  Fortunately it is a fairly unusual surname plus I was working backwards from the present day which made him easier to trace.  However, it has taken a few years and I can't get back further than Charles. Most of the children the Society took were destitute or vagrants so finding any record of their parents is very difficult, and quite possibly the children didn't know much either.  The "Abberton" landed at Cape Town on 29.03.1837.

Good hunting


South Africa / Re: Children's Friend Society
« on: Saturday 12 August 17 05:51 BST (UK)  »
I have a copy of "The Children's Friend Society" book by Geoff Blackburn as I too have an ancestor who was sent to S.Africa by the Society.  Your Thomas Cook is listed as being sent to Cape Town on the "Abberton", which sailed 13th January 1837.  He was apprenticed to C.F. BEYERS to work as a farm servant.  Hope that might be of some help.


South Africa / Re: WALLIS Rowland Henry b 1854, Grahamstown.
« on: Wednesday 25 May 16 04:15 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for the shipping list I shall follow it up. 

South Africa / Re: Thom family in Cape town 1883
« on: Wednesday 25 May 16 04:13 BST (UK)  »
I can't help specifically, but I do recall some families with the surname Thom in Zimbabwe and Zambia (Southern & Northern Rhodesia as was) in the 1950s and  onwards. I believe one family had a store in Harare, and there were Thoms farming in Zambia, but I can't remember more than that.  However it might be worth looking there.


South Africa / Re: WALLIS Rowland Henry b 1854, Grahamstown.
« on: Monday 23 May 16 03:44 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, that information is very much appreciated.  The baptism record is for my Rowland and confirms what I had found previously.


South Africa / WALLIS Rowland Henry b 1854, Grahamstown.
« on: Tuesday 17 May 16 00:15 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone know what happened to Rowland Henry Wallis, and his wife Jemima Heather Kirkpatrick?  I have traced them to the 1890s, but can't find any further information.  I know what happened to 4 of their 6 children, but I can only get to 1938 with their son Clement b 1885, and 1923 with their daughter Clarice Enid b 1889. Jemima was our G.Aunt, so any help would be appreciated.


Thank you everyone. My they look a formidable couple!  We never met them as they died long before we were born, so many thanks again.


Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Photo of Grandad Henry & Joan
« on: Sunday 12 July 15 01:30 BST (UK)  »
Please can you make this photo clearer, we'd love to see what Grandad Henry and Joan looked like. It was taken in South Africa c1900?
Many thanks

South Africa / Re: Martha Ann BARTLE
« on: Tuesday 07 April 15 21:55 BST (UK)  »
Hi Laura,
We have an enormous generation gap here, your GGGrandfather was my husband's Uncle! However given that Charles Dubber had 15 children by 2 wives over 31 years and my husband was a late surprise to his parents it's understandable.  Charles had 8 children with his 1st wife Amelia: Walter, Herbert, Alice, Norman, Ellen, Hector, and Mary; with 2nd wife Martha: Claude, Oliver, Grace, Maud, Mabel, Everitt and Olive Alma (known as Alma). I remember meeting Alma in 1968, for tea at Stuttafords in Durban.
I've traced most of the children so have a lot of info I can give you.  Post 1 more reply to me and we can do a PM.
Look forward to hearing from you again,

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