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Kent / Re: James Hickmott bc1839-44
« on: Friday 12 May 23 14:16 BST (UK)  »
Again, thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread.

On the 1864 Hickmott / Wallace marriage, despite a bit more digging and the fact that there is no GRO registration and no mention of the couple in the 1871+ Census Returns suggests to me that perhaps the marriage never took place. 

I'm also still puzzled why Samuel and Susanna's 1839 Marriage does not appear on the FreeBMD site? 

Anyway, onwards and upwards...

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Kent / Re: James Hickmott bc1839-44
« on: Friday 12 May 23 10:01 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for all the inputs so far.
As usual with these puzzles each potential clue provokes further questions   ???

I might just need to order the 1864 marriage certificate between James H Hickmott and Helen Wallace to satisfy my curiosity. 

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Kent / Re: James Hickmott bc1839-44
« on: Thursday 11 May 23 16:26 BST (UK)  »
Thanks again Queenie.

Very interesting as I thought James might have the middle name Henry as his 1900 death registration is James H Hickmott.

A James H Hickmott married a Helen Wallace in 1864 but I could find no further record of them. Not sure if it's the same person or a different one??

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Kent / Re: James Hickmott bc1839-44
« on: Thursday 11 May 23 16:16 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Queenie that was quick   ;)

So could his birth registration be the 1840 GRO index entry Vol 5 Pg 76 Jan-Mar Cranbrook Union with MMN= Bridger?

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Kent / James Hickmott bc1839-44
« on: Thursday 11 May 23 16:04 BST (UK)  »
Looking for details of the origins of a James Hickmott bc1839-44 in Kent prior to 1868 when I know he married Mary Ann Wiles in Bromley. The couple went on to have 12 children between the years 1868 and 1888. 

James passed away in 1900 in Bromley so I'm guessing was born there or in one of the surrounding towns or villages but I can't establish exactly where and when.  On his parentage his 1868 Marriage Registration states his father's name as "Samuel" but so far I've been unable to find any matching families in the 1841 -1861 Census Returns.

I'm hoping that as there are a number of Hickmott branches in the Kent area that someone out there may have the details I'm looking for.  Any help appreciated.

Many thanks.

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Wiltshire / Re: Ann Day b1797-1801- Bower Chalke
« on: Wednesday 22 June 22 16:59 BST (UK)  »
ribbo39

Thanks for replying and the information, much appreciated.

Frank

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Wiltshire / Re: Ann Day b1797-1801- Bower Chalke
« on: Tuesday 21 June 22 15:26 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for your reply.

All of the information I have is that which is available on the public website www.familysearch.org.

All family trees on that site are defaulted to public view where anyone can edit and/or amend the details. Each person added to the site is automatically given a unique identification alpha-numeric code. The various letters/numbers I included in brackets are the codes for the people I am looking into.  The links you provided in your second email include the alpha-numeric codes at the end of the link.

That said, your links to the sources of evidence for Sarah Day's baptism and marriage were appreciated.

However, where I need help is trying to establish sources of evidence pre-1826 which confirm the names of Ann's parent(s). Whilst typing this, Rootschat member Capetown's post popped up and the information looks like a possible explanation.  If it's the same Sarah Day who had a baseborn female child in 1804 that could be the answer. Sarah would only have been around 14yo but not impossible and that may explain the lack of official baptismal record.

I will see if I can access the records Capetown mentions.

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Wiltshire / Ann Day b1797-1801- Bower Chalke
« on: Tuesday 21 June 22 12:10 BST (UK)  »
I am looking into the life of an Ann Day (LCRC-CDB) bc 1797-1801 in Bower Chalke, Wiltshire on Familysearch.

Currently she is shown as a daughter of Sarah Day (LCMG-MSV) 1790-1870 which is most probably incorrect if Sarah's birth date of 1790 is accurate, as she would have given birth at around 11 years of age. I know in these times under English Law girls needed to be 12 years of age to marry but only 10 years of age for sexual intercourse.  The man Sarah married in 1809, Thomas Golding/Goulding would have been around 23yo and she 19 years. 

Not sure if it can be proved that Ann is Sarah's daughter or in fact her youngest sibling born to Sarah's mother, Jane Lawes (LCMG-MC9)? 

If anyone can help throw some light on this I would be immensely grateful.

Thanks in advance,
Frank


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Somerset / Re: 1851, Help needed please finding Fredrick LESTER
« on: Friday 11 February 22 11:50 GMT (UK)  »
I too have been looking into this family so was happy to find this thread.

I have been unable to find a marriage record between Frederick Lester and Sarah Fry (or Bowden) in the 10 years preceding the birth of their first child, George Fry Lester in 1857 in Bristol. 

I have established and therefore agree that Sarah Fry bc 1835 in Croscombe, Somerset is, along with her brother Stephen (bc 1833) the legitimate offspring of the marriage between Elizabeth Ball (bc1805) and George Fry (bc 1810) who were married in Croscombe, Somerset on 25/09/1832.

George Fry died in 1837 and FreeReg records his burial in Croscombe on 17 September of that year.

On 25/04/1838 Elizabeth Fry (nee Ball) married William Bowden in Croscombe.

The 1851 Census (HO107  1935/107 Pg 22) records the family i.e William Bowden, Elizabeth Bowden and Elizabeth's children, Stephen Fry and Sarah Fry living in Street Somerset.

The 1861 Census (RG09 1719/8 Pg 12) records Elizabeth Bowden (nee Ball) living with and being supported by her daughter Sarah's husband, Frederick Lester.  Sarah and Frederick have two children George aged 4 and Frederick (actually Anthony Frederick) as a new born.

I have been using the resources available through Familysearch and FreeReg to establish these facts  and for anyone who wants to find the family on the former site the ID's are as follows:

George Fry G69V-DH7
Elizabeth Ball G7P3-C2X
Stephen Fry G69J-P72
Sarah Fry G7P3-MP2
Frederick Lester L6PM-ZQD

After reading the thread again I am now concerned about whether the Frederick Lester who was in gaol in 1851 is the same one who married Sarah Fry?  Did they marry while he was serving his sentence and that's why I can't find them in the GRO Marriages Index?


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