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Cardiganshire / Re: Winefred Jones
« on: Saturday 25 October 14 11:20 BST (UK)  »
Winefred Jones born Stepside 1836 was my 2x grandmother, married William Henry David 1857, I believe Mary Jones was her sister, and they both ended up in Leckwith, since Winefred was 1836 and I believe Mary was 1825, I wonder how many were in between ?

Dat402

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Cornwall / Re: John BARBERY 1696 Creed Cornwall
« on: Friday 07 October 11 18:21 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Chris, and very interesting in that Margery 1724, (her daughter), marries Thomas Polkinghorn in 1754 - I hope that doesn't account for my nervous twitch when the moon is full ! I will now have to see if I can find the relationship between them.

Dat402

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Cornwall / John BARBERY 1696 Creed Cornwall
« on: Friday 07 October 11 09:56 BST (UK)  »
I have found the above with I believe reference to four children Margery 1724, Elizabeth 1726, Mary 1728 & Dorothy 1730, there is at the Baptism records in Creed, no mention of the mother or can I find a wedding, in and around 1723.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dat402

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Worcestershire / Re: Worcestershire - Ombersley – John Cupper – 1780’s to 1830’s
« on: Saturday 03 September 11 09:19 BST (UK)  »
C.Rhodda

Was the correct link and have found what you were talking about. I have emailed Mark Chambers and if I find anything that is relevant to Thomas then I will post for you.

DT

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C.Rodda

Yes I was thinking along the same lines that all three were the same person. The baptisms from Ombersley that I have are as follows


1   August   1813   John   s   John   Cupper   Hannah   Cupper   Labourer   Ombersley
6   May   1787   James   s   John   Cupper   Mary   Cupper      
6   September   1789   Elizabeth   d   John   Cupper   Mary   Cupper      
6   February   1820   Thomas   s   John   Cupper   Dinah   Cupper   Labourer   Ombersley
11   April   1847   Thomas      John   Cupper   Elizabeth   Cupper   Shoemaker   The Hadland
12   March   1780   John   s   John   Cupper   Mary   Cupper      
12   February   1826   Edward   s   John   Cupper   Mary   Cupper   Labourer   Ombersley
13   September   1778   Thomas   s   John   Cupper   Mary   Cupper      
13   December   1835   Henry   s   John   Cupper   Mary   Cupper   Labourer   Ombersley
16   May   1812   William   s   John   Cupper   Hannah   Cupper      
16   March   1828   Sarah   d   John   Cupper   Mary   Cupper   Labourer   Ombersley
18   July   1830   James   s   John   Cupper   Mary   Cupper   Labourer   Ombersley
20   June   1784   William   s   John   Cupper   Mary   Cupper      
23   July   1815   Elizabeth   d   John   Cupper   Deana   Cupper   Labourer   Ombersley
25   January   1782   Sarah   d   John   Cupper   Mary   Cupper      
30   December   1832   Ann   d   John   Cupper   Mary   Cupper   Labourer   Ombersley
30   November   1722   William   s   Tho    Cupper   Eliz    Cupper      
15   October   1725   Ann   d   Thomas   Cupper   Elizabeth   Cupper      

Hope there is something additional to assist you.

The link that you sent was a myheritage site for Chambers, I had a quick look and there was an Ann and Annie Cupper ? Was it this link that gave you the additional information or another ?

DT

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Thank you both.

Phil - I missed your reply when sent and have only just found it. I have obtained the parish registers for Ombersley from Parish Chest and have had a little success from those.

Crodda - Thank you for that, I started this mission when I was in Adelaide in February this year with my sister in law, and we sat down to pen what we could of her lineage. At that stage we thought Cupper was actually Buppen because of handwriting. So when I returned to England I made a greater effort from the 30 odd people we could think of.

My confusion with regard to John Cupper is as follows from the Ombersley parish records

1/8/1813 John Cupper is baptised parents John Cupper & Hannah
6/2/1820 Thomas Cupper is baptised to John Cupper & Dinah
23/7/1815 Elizabeth Cupper is baptised to John Cupper & Deanna

John Cupper goes on to have four children with Mary Pugh, Edward, Henry, Sarah & James. ( Married 30/9/1825)

My primary interest is Elizabeth who marries James Neale, my late wife being a Neale two generations later.
Have you Thomas's parents in your research ?

DT

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Worcestershire / Re: Worcestershire – Taylor – PRE 1865
« on: Saturday 13 August 11 12:15 BST (UK)  »
Isobel,

Yes you are right about the ages, and I am sure I did look at this one, but probably later in the search when my thinking was clouded, by too much information. St John Worcester is where she said she was born, in her other census entires, and I will expand my search now for those years prior to 1839 down to 1836.

Thank You.

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Worcestershire / Worcestershire – Taylor – PRE 1865
« on: Saturday 13 August 11 11:29 BST (UK)  »
I have just obtained the Marriage Certificate for  Charles Stanton & Harriet Taylor 16/4/1865. It shows Harriet’s father as Thomas Taylor, Labourer. I cannot find an obvious reference in the census data for Harriet or Thomas (Harriet prior to her marriage and Thomas at all). Harriet’s  age at marriage 26, though it varies by a couple of years in the census data after her marriage.
Anyone able to help ?

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Worcestershire / Worcestershire - Ombersley – John Cupper – 1780’s to 1830’s
« on: Wednesday 10 August 11 09:57 BST (UK)  »
My primary interest is John Cupper shown in the census returns for 1841(25 therefore circa 1816) and 1851, married to Elizabeth. He is shown in the census of 1851, with a brother and sister James and Ann, who where the children of John Cupper & Mary Pugh who married in 1826 ? John Cupper Snr. being a widow at the time.
There is a John Cupper baptised on the 1/8/1813 to a John Cupper and Hannah. Does anyone know if this is the first union for John Cupper Snr.?
There is also a John Cupper and Dinah/Deanna who have children Elizabeth & Thomas in 1815 and 1820 respectively and I have put the two together on no firm foundation.
Is it possible that John Cupper Snr was infact married three times and all the children are his ?
Any information would be greatly appreciated.

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