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Mayo / Re: mulligan/mannion
« on: Monday 16 July 12 16:15 BST (UK)  »
Ahah, now I have the marriage cert of Francis and Bridget. dated 6/7/1878, they were married in Warrington, Francis was 24, Bridget 22 ( but I'm not convinced of this date, I think she may have added a few years in order to marry without permission and emigrate to USA- I may be wrong, but future census details back this up, also her death record suggests birth in 1859, so 3 years out). Bridgets father named as James Mulligan ( deceased), and gives an address in Warrington, but doesn't state where her mother is or what her name is/was. So, back to the drawing board. How to trace Bridgets family in Mayo?

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Mayo / Re: mulligan/mannion
« on: Thursday 05 July 12 19:40 BST (UK)  »
well tara, I hardly dare tell you what I've found out. I remebered that MiL gets a round robin letter every year from "a relative in America". she doesn't even know what the relationship is. Anyway, I wrote to him and he emailed me straight back and his information is staggering. He has supplied the names of Francis parents and all of his dscendants. It appears that francis and Bridget were not the only family to go to america. however, where they came back, many of them stayed. There are about 200 of them over the years and ( gulp) he has named every one of them, and sent many photos too. The family originate from Cloonkeen in Galway. I wont be placing all of them in the family tree and some of them are too far removed, but he has also sent many notes that he has transcribed over the years and it is very interesting. he is the greatgranson of francis brother Michael.
So, I have what I needed, now perhaps I'll try and trace Bridgets family.
thanks
kath

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Mayo / Re: mulligan/mannion
« on: Sunday 01 July 12 21:08 BST (UK)  »
thanks Tara. well, I'm not a football fan, so whilst hubby is watching I've been very busy. I've found them! Or at least I found out that they were married in Warrington in 1878. record Vol 8c, page 185.  The problem was that Francis surname is spelt Manion, not Mannion. I'm so glad I found it. Dont know yet how they both came to be in Warrington as there is no trace of them, although there are dozens of Mannions/ Manions in the 1871 census who came from Ireland, some even from Galway. There seems to be a large contingent of them around the Holy Trinity/ St Elphins area which are both close together.
So, now I know the details I can send for the marriage cert. I must knock off though now, I've spent hours on this today, it really gets you in a grip doesn't it?

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Mayo / Re: mulligan/mannion
« on: Sunday 01 July 12 19:41 BST (UK)  »
thanks for quick rply tara. Any avenue is worth exploring so I think I'll do as you suggest. I still could do with supplying more details than I have got though. All I have is a little vague, I dont even know if they were married in Ireland or maybe went to US separately, married there and then moved to UK after the birth of their first child.

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Mayo / Re: mulligan/mannion
« on: Sunday 01 July 12 18:49 BST (UK)  »
thanks for replies Tara. The person with the family tree on Ancestry is the distant relative who is investigating the Mannion/Mannion route rather than mannion/Mulligan. I had a eureka moment when you mentioned Grandads birth cert as my MiL, who is still alive, has some documents she keeps at our house. I looked today and there it is, the birth cert, showing that grandads mother was indeed Bridget Mannion, formerly Mulligan. So, now I know which name to research, but still dont have any further information. The only clue I have is that on one census Bridgets birth place is listed as Meo, which I presume means Mayo, but Co Mayo is a big place, so not sure where to look.

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Mayo / mulligan/mannion
« on: Saturday 30 June 12 15:58 BST (UK)  »
the destroyed irish records make tracing relatives really frustrating. Hope someone can help. Francis Mannion from Galway married Bridget  Mulligan from Mayo around 1879 but there is no record of this.
 ( although a distant relative has an idea that maybe Bridgets maiden name was also Mannion and they may have been 2nd cousins- I'm not so sure) They probably emigrated to USA around 1880 because their first child John is listed in later census as being born in America. They obviously came back because they settled in Warrington Lancs UK, appearing on the 1891 census. At that time, john was 10, next child Mary was 8 and listed as being born in Lancs, so they must have returned between 1881 and 1883. On following censuses, Bridgets age varies so she could have been born anytime between 1855 and 1861. Frances age also varies on the census so he could have been born anytime between 1852 and 1860. they had 7 children, the youngest being James who was my husbands grandfather. Bridget died in Warrington in 1934 age 75, so this would back up the fact that her DOB was probably 1859. I dont have access to passengers lists for US emigration. My MiL has a vague recallection that there may be some Regans in the Mannion/ Mulligan families, some still in Ireland.
Does anyone have access to any information?

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Cambridgeshire / Re: confused about this area
« on: Sunday 04 March 12 20:21 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for that info KG. and Rosie, thats a great link. Thanks so much.

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Cambridgeshire / confused about this area
« on: Saturday 03 March 12 16:11 GMT (UK)  »
hello, I've moved on from my Shropshire relatives to my Norfolk/Cambridgeshire relatives and I'm having a bit of trouble identifying the areas. A couple of generations of the Gagen family list their birthplace as Terrington St Clements Norfolk, and its also described as Terrington St Clements Cambridgeshire. According to the enumerator report in one of the censuses, this is one & the same place. But when i Google terrington, its listed as Norfolk only. I think this is why I'm having trouble tracing the birth of one of them. The info I got from a member connect in Ancestry suggest that Fuller Gagen was born in 1810, but I can only find Fuller Gagen, b. 1840 ( his son) and another Fuller gagen b. 1870 ( maybe his grandson). I cant find any parish records for this area. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I dont know where the other member got this information from and cant find any links in that persons family tree.
A little bit more info --- Fuller Gagen b. 1810. Married Charlotte Curry in 1833. Ch Jonathon 1834, Sarah, Fuller, Charloote, Mary, James 1845 ( this is our direct ancestor), Dinah, jane, frederick.
Any help appreciated.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Warwickshire records??
« on: Friday 24 February 12 06:12 GMT (UK)  »
BB, do you have any idea ifthe Birmingham records Re online?

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