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Hi thank you for taking time to reply, My Grandfather James Holdens married a,Catherine Anderson in 1934, my Grandads father on the marriage cert was Briggs Holden and his mothers name Ann their  children was James( my grandad) Sarah Alice and Margaret and may have had another child and at one point lived at Derby st Bolton. When we tried to find more out about Briggs Holden ( my great grandad) one of the leads led to a Peggy and Briggs Holden from Darwin  which may tie in with what Mabel Bagshawe came up with but when we looked for Briggs he comes up as a grandson which was illegitimate.and was wondering if he was the son of Ellen Briggs. Very confusing and very difficult as all my grandparents died before I was born and my parents died when I was younger so unfortunately no one to ask. we also think Briggs father was also called Briggs born 1800. Thank you and sorry for any confusion

Philip the date I was looking at that was wrong was ,1887 and the date you came up with for his death sounds right as I remember my mother telling me my grandfather died not long before I was born in 1957

Hi I was wondering if you could help me find some information on my Grandad, His name was James Holden born1882 and died 1957 Manchester area.At one point I thought I had found his birth,his parents and siblings but unfortunately I was given the wrong date for his birth. I have tried different sites but no luck luck at all. James was not married to my Grandmother but I heard he did marry a lady called Katherine or Cathlene who he was with up to him dying, I was told my Uncle called James Albert registered his death.I would love to know more about his back ground as in who my great grandparents was.

Thats great Racliff thanks, i will keep checking to see if any more information comes up

 Sorry all i know its difficult on such limited information, I now know that cecilia alice and her son albert are buried at failsworth, Wonder why little sid was buried in a common grave sad isn,t it,