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Technical Help / Re: Website for sharing a family tree
« on: Monday 01 June 20 15:29 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Ray,

That looks very good at first glance. I will certainly give a try.



Technical Help / Website for sharing a family tree
« on: Monday 01 June 20 13:31 BST (UK)  »
Hi Folks,

I apologise because I am sure that this must have been asked about many times before but I don't know how to do a search.

Can anyone suggest a site where I can set up the means of sharing a family tree with others. I don't mean Ancestry or FindmyPast I was wondering if there is a model website layout or template for adding your family tree. Other than Facebook I have never set up a website so I'm not sure of the best way forward.

I hope that this rambling makes sense to someone.



Family History Beginners Board / Re: Sale Of Property
« on: Monday 01 June 20 13:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi Everyone, I am no further forward on this one. I got the will record which shows that the will was in favour of Gertrude Sarah Shutt. The gross value was 1289 but the net value was only about 390. Would that be due to debts? Surely not all tax?

The will does not show her assets so I don't know whether Shutts Butchers shop was part of the assets, it was sold prior to Louisa's death, or even whether Louisa never actually owned the shop but just ran it on someone else's behalf.

Can anyone suggest a website where I can check the ownership of the property going back to the 1930s please?

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Sale Of Property
« on: Wednesday 29 April 20 22:00 BST (UK)  »
Thanks everyone. I have ordered the will which will be available to download around 14 May. It will be fascinating.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Sale Of Property
« on: Wednesday 29 April 20 20:52 BST (UK)  »
Hi Millipede,

Thank you so much for that. That is exciting news. ;D

This is the correct Louise. 22 St Mary's Street was the address of the butchers. I am still new to anything other than looking at Censuses and searching Parish Records. Can you offer any advice about how I would go about obtaining a copy of the will please.

Family History Beginners Board / Sale Of Property
« on: Wednesday 29 April 20 15:36 BST (UK)  »
Hi Folks,

I am trying to find when a property / business passed out of the hands of the Shutt family. I have found something which says that Louise Shutt ran Shutt's the Butchers in St Mary's Street Newport, Shropshire into the 1930s after which it was owned by a Mr Minshull but still traded as Shutts. I have heard a story that says that the business was lost due to gambling debts but Louise Shutt was un-married so there are no direct descendants to ask. Is there a way in which I can find information regarding the eventual transfer of ownership of the business and / or property?

Thanks for any help you can offer.

Shropshire / Re: Richard Heighway & Maria Sargeant - Inmates 1824
« on: Tuesday 29 January 19 16:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Garstonite,

Sorry that I haven't replied sooner. I think the record you are talking about for the 13th is the first reading of the Banns at St Chads. The third reading was on 27th and the actual marriage took place on 28th. I did take a snapshot of the relevant page of the register and it definitely says 28th.

I tend to jump around with my membership of family history sites to take advantage of good offers. Annoyingly my current membership is now with Ancestry (5 a month) but they only show the results of searches for Shropshire but not the documents so I can't check further at the moment.

ShaunJ, thanks for pointing that out, it does indeed say "Banns forbid". Now I am frustrated that I will probably never know why. I might go and ask in the records office if they have copies of any responses to Banns. Maybe Maria was too young and her parents objected.

Thanks again both


A search on Ancestry shows

Shropshire / Re: Richard Heighway & Maria Sargeant - Inmates 1824
« on: Tuesday 15 January 19 10:04 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Shaun,

That is interesting. The things you learn while looking for the family!

Does anyone know about my second point. Is it legal to have your banns read in one place and then move to a different place and have them read again a month later? I was thinking for instance, if there was someone who gave "just cause why they should not be married" in one place could they just move to somewhere where no one knows them and have them read again?

I suppose in those days how would anyone know if they did that anyway, but was it legal?


Shropshire / Richard Heighway & Maria Sargeant - Inmates 1824
« on: Monday 14 January 19 13:20 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Folks,

On FindMyPast I have come across three documents relating to the marriage of Richard Heighway and Maria Sargeant in 1824. The actual marriage document shows them as married at St Chads Shrewsbury on 28/06/1824. There is then a Banns notice for St Chads which says they are "both of this parish". However there is also a Banns notice for Rushbury for one month earlier stating that they are "both inmates of William Speak Wall's Bank".

I assume that they left whatever circumstances they were in at Rushbury and moved to Shrewsbury and asked for new banns to be read at St Chads prior to their marriage (is that legal). I have looked at the census for 1841 and there is a William Speak of Walls Bank, Wall Under Heywood who is an Agricultural Labourer. It is too much coincidence to suppose that there could be another William Speak of Walls Bank.

My question is does anyone know of a convention at that time for describing people as "inmates" rather than lodgers or employees or whatever Richard & Maria's status might have been at the time? Or could this have been a wry comment from them about the draconian attitude of their landlord :-)

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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