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Shropshire / Re: Timothy Clarkson - varying ages struggling to trace him
« on: Friday 15 September 23 09:31 BST (UK)  »
Katie, you may already know this but it is something I only learned very recently on a FB group.

It may not be totally applicable in this case but in the 1841 census almost all ages above the age of 20 were rounded down to the nearest 5 or 10 years. It sounds unlikely but just check a page and you will see that almost every adult's age ends in a 0 or a 5. So someone aged 54 would appear as 50 and someone aged 59 would appear as 55.

Not everyone knew their exact age in 1841 so someone aged say 57 but guessing their age as 54 could appear in the census as aged 50, 7 years younger than they really were. Just something to be aware of with differences in census ages.

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Shropshire / Re: Mills In Shrewsbury
« on: Wednesday 13 September 23 16:41 BST (UK)  »
Thanks again Mike, sadly I popped into the Shropshire Archives this morning and the mill near the Smithfield was a saw mill so not the trade Thomas was used to. I am thinking now that either he must have walked to the other side of town to ply his trade every day (as you suggested) or that he took another job while living in Roushill.

Hanes Teulu, thank you for looking for that. I appreciate your efforts  I think I have exhausted all of their parish register entries with marriage allegation, marriage, 7 children baptised in Shrewsbury (and one buried) and then three baptised in Llanymynech. Then I have register entries for both Elizabeth (1835) and Thomas (1844) buried in Montford Parish Church and stating the Carreghofa connection. Sadly I could not find a grave site in the churchyard but getting on for 200 years later... Thanks again for your efforts to help.

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Shropshire / Re: Mills In Shrewsbury
« on: Wednesday 13 September 23 08:23 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Mike, that one by the Smithfield is by far the best bet I have seen so far. I'll have to go along to the Archives to see if they have any history of that mill. I don't think he would have gone as far as the abbey but who knows. I have found that his father John was probably the miller at Fitz Mill. At least he married a girl in Montford Church in 1760 and his marriage allegation said he was a miller from Fitz. But by 1841 Fitz Mill was occupied by a Vaughan family. Although Mytton Mill is very close to Fitz too.
Thanks again for an excellent bit of detective work.

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Shropshire / Re: Mills In Shrewsbury
« on: Tuesday 12 September 23 20:10 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Mike, I really appreciate you having a search for me.
I have had a look through and there are only two mills mentioned in Shrewsbury itself on this website. One being the old Flax Mill at Ditherington and the other being in "Mill Street" which does not exist today but I gather was near the Abbey. Although a couple of others were mentioned in Mill Road, Meole Brace and one called Salop Laundries Mill at Sutton.
I live in Shrewsbury and knowing the area none of these is likely to have been convenient for a man living in Roushill, which is where Thomas Randles lived according to family baptism records. The enigma continues. The baptisms do not specifically mention him being a miller so I suppose he could have changed trades after his marriage, until he returned to milling at Carreghofa, Llanymynech around 1810.
Thanks again for looking.

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Shropshire / Mills In Shrewsbury
« on: Tuesday 12 September 23 13:45 BST (UK)  »
I am looking into a family called Randles.
The Background
Thomas Randles married Elizabeth Onslow by license at St Chads, Shrewsbury in 1797. In the license his occupation is shown as a miller. Following the wedding, from 1798 onwards, there are a number of baptisms at St Chad's of children born to Thomas and Elizabeth Randles of Rowshill (modern Roushill). The baptisms do not show the father's occupation, so being pre census, I have assumed that the children were born to the miller and his wife.
In 1813 and later a Thomas and Elizabeth Randles were having children baptised in Llanymynech and Thomas was shown as a miller. Although by the 1841 census 70 year old Thomas said "yes" to being born in the county (the mill was just over the border in Montgomeryshire). There were no Randles living in Rowshill in 1841.
I am therefore thinking that all of these records are probably the same Thomas and Elizabeth since the history of Carreghofa Mill says that a new mill was built around the time of Thomas's arrival in Llanymynech as part of the feeder system for the new canal there.
This is a very longwinded (normal for me) way of asking if anyone has a list, or history of the mills in Shrewsbury, particularly around 1800. Which mill might Thomas Randles of St Chad's / Rowshill have worked at?

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Warwickshire / Re: Marriage Allegations / Oaths Warwickshire
« on: Sunday 03 September 23 17:34 BST (UK)  »
Aaahh! Thanks! So presumably most of south Warwickshire was in the diocese pf Worcester with Warwick not having a Bishop before the late 20th century? Thank you very much for your informative reply. I have had great success with Cheshire Oaths but not anywhere else. So far... I live in hope. I'm off to search Worcetershire Archive Catalogies.

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Warwickshire / Marriage Allegations / Oaths Warwickshire
« on: Sunday 03 September 23 16:48 BST (UK)  »
Hi Folks, I am aware of a marriage in 1804 in Barford, Warks between Thomas Coleman and Mary Ann Parker. The Church Register says that the marriage was by license and that the bride was a minor. It also says that Thomas was "of this parish" and that Mary was "of the parish of Warwick".
I have some vague suspicions that both parties may have come from Oxfordshire in need of an urgent marriage. But then how would they get around parental consent for a minor.
What I would love to be able to do is see copies of the Oath and / or Allegation (sorry I'm not to well up on terminology for licences). Is anyone aware of a website where I might be able to see Warwickshire Marriage License papers please. Or might they be available at Warwick Records Office / Archives?
For those trying to help, be warned that some websites show this record as a Worcestershire Bishop's Transcript for some reason. Probably an error and then perpetuated by copying. 

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Staffordshire / Re: Cherry Street, St Mary's
« on: Wednesday 02 August 23 20:52 BST (UK)  »
Thank you both. That is two really excellent replies and tells me all I needed to know. Much appreciated

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Staffordshire / Cherry Street, St Mary's
« on: Saturday 29 July 23 16:20 BST (UK)  »
Hi Folks, I have googled and googled but can't find any reference to Cherry Street, St Marys, Stafford other than a now defunct pub called The Boot (and no details / photos of that).
Can anyone tell me where Cherry Street was please? I assume that it is no longer there given the lack of google records.
We have a relative (Hubball) living at number 42 in 1851. Any more information would be gratefully received.

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