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World War Two / Re: Searching Serjeant Stanley Richie
« on: Sunday 24 March 24 13:10 GMT (UK)  »
Here is this newspaper report


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World War Two / Re: Searching Serjeant Stanley Richie
« on: Sunday 24 March 24 12:46 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Ruud!
Welcome to Rootschat  :)

He is the information from CWGC (Commonwealth War Graves Commission)
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/2054576/stanley-ritchie/
Aged 23 when he died 2 Feb 1945
Son of John and Agnes Ritchie, of Belfast, Northern Ireland.

I can see you've already been on this site  ;) :
https://www.paradata.org.uk/people/stanley-ritchie

Cheers
AMBLY

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: brown family
« on: Saturday 23 March 24 07:13 GMT (UK)  »
Other researchers online:
https://www.bnl.bm/2011/08/29/bermuda-history-genealogy/comment-page-4/
"Robert William Duncan who, according to his marriage certificate was born in Somerset, Bermuda in June 1885. His parents names were John Duncan and Margaret Duncan (nee McGrath).

and:
https://www.bnl.bm/2011/08/29/bermuda-history-genealogy/comment-page-5/
 "I ordered this from Bermuda many years ago and it arrived but when I contacted them recently for more info they had no trace of this birth certificate......My grandfather was born in Sandy’s Parish Bermuda on 4 June 1878 to a father listed as Duncan Brown a sapper in the Royal Engineers and mother Margaret Brown nee McGrath or MaGrath.

WW1 record
Joined the AIF 18 Aug 1914
Enlisted:     Blackboy Hill, Western Australia
Robert William Duncan
Age 29 years, 2 mnths (4.6.85)
Occupation: Clerk
Born Ratheslathe, London Surrey (is this meant to be Rotherhithe?)
Sister: Ruby Duncan, 88 Great Howard Street, Liverpool, Lancashire
Had served 2½ years in RAGA (WA)
Description: 5',11¾", blue eyes,  brown hair, fair complexion, Roman Catholic
Honorably Discharged Egypt 1916
A note re conditions of Discharge saying, the Army wouldn't be paying for his return "home"

How and when did he return to Australia?

RAGA
Royal Australian Garrison Artillery

So the AIF record indicates he was in Australia at least from around 1911 or so?

I couldn't find 88 Great Harwood  - in any census near 1914.

Cheers
AMBLY

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: HULL SEAMAN'S & GENERAL ORPHAN ASYLUM
« on: Wednesday 20 March 24 21:03 GMT (UK)  »
wow! maddys52!   ;D
Great sleuthing! Finding the report with Martha Hall's name actually in it!  That all ties in with her being 15 or 16  - and probably soon released out into the world to fend for herself.

Found this old thread, it includes information about where the old records for the Asylum/orphanage are kept etc.,
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=268058.27

Cheers
AMBLY

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: HULL SEAMAN'S & GENERAL ORPHAN ASYLUM
« on: Wednesday 20 March 24 02:44 GMT (UK)  »
I think the following is the family of the 1871 Census Martha Hall,  and it fits very well to the Martha Hall who received the Bible.......

I believe the husband/father of the Census family  was Thomas Garton Hall who died 1873 and he was a ship's Carpenter.  He married Mary Ann Clark in 1862 and they had (at least) 2 daughters Martha (1863) and Fanny Elizabeth (1865).  This Martha married Arthur Tom Fletcher in 1888, with sister Fanny Elizabeth as a witness, and her father stated to be : Thomas Garton Hall, Carpenter (dec'd)

MARRIAGE 1888 Registered: MQ Sculcoates
Arthur Tom FLETCHER
Martha HALL

Married 25 Feb 1888, Parish of St Paul Sculcoates
Arthur Tom Fletcher, 25, Bachelor. Mechanic, 18 Liiddel St. Father : John? Fletcher, Butcher
Martha HALL 24, Spinster, 16 Sarah Ennis??  Street, St Paul. Father: Thomas Garton Hall, Carpenter (dec'd)
Witness: Edward Thorp Nicholson + Fanny Elizabeth Hall

This marrying couple are in 1891, 1901, 1911 Census.
They had a daughter named Fanny Elizabeth Fletcher in 1896
Martha's age 27 in 1891, 37 in 1901 (the 1871 Martha was age 7)

Working backwards:

MARRIAGE 1862
Thomas Gaston (Garton)  Hall + Mary Ann Clark, Sculcoates 1862

BIRTH:
Martha HALL, mms CLARK - DQ 1863 Sculcoates
Fanny Elizabeth HALL, mms CLARK - DQ 1865 Sculcoates

ELECTORAL REGISTER 1868, Sculcoates
Thomas Garton Hall, Sykes Street

DEATH :
Thomas Garton Hall,  age 48, Registered Hull  Sep Qtr 1873

I'd lay bets this is the family of Martha Hall receiving the bible in 1876.  Amazing to be able to find such strong leads, with such a common surname :-)  (I have a whole parcel of HALL from Hull/Sculcoates - no Martha's though)

If not HALL, does FLETCHER or CLARK feature in your Dad's family history?

Cheers
AMBLY

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: HULL SEAMAN'S & GENERAL ORPHAN ASYLUM
« on: Wednesday 20 March 24 01:17 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Darter50,
Welcome to Rootschat :)

Worth mentioning ..When The Time comes for me, my children will find a few bibles amongst my possessions, with names and dates in them  - that are nothing to do with our family. I have collected/rescued a few old bibles that caught my eye, in Op Shops (Charity Shops), (Rummage sales)  ;D

As for Martha Hall in the Hull Seaman's & General Orphanage in 1876.....  she doesn't appear to be there in 1881:
https://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/HullSeamen/HullSeamen1881.shtml

There is a 15 yrs old Fanny Eliz. Hall  enumerated only.

Interestingly there is this 1871 Census:
CENSUS 1871:  at  23 James Street, Southcoats, Holderness, Hull
Wife: Mary Ann HALL 41 married, Ship Carpenter's wife, b Beverley Yorkshire
Dau: Martha HALL 7, b Hull
Dau: Fanny E HALL  5, b Hull

Has your Dad's family history been researched on both sides?  Is HALL a family name, even if you don't recognise there having been a "Martha"?

Cheers
AMBLY

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The Common Room / Re: Miriam Gardner
« on: Tuesday 19 March 24 21:58 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ed,

Hmm synchronicity at it's wildest best?

On the 1939 Register with widow Miriam McKie (later Kipling) doB 16 June 1898, the head married couple are John Gardner doB 26 Sep 1874 and Emily Gardner doB 9 Jul 1875. Above Emily it is later noted (probably when she died) that her name is Hannah E. Inferred son there is Thomas, b 30 Nov 1914

MARRIAGE Mar Qtr 1896 Durham
John Whitfield Gardiner
Hannah Emily Porter

BIRTH: Thomas Whitfield GARDNER , mms PORTER, reg MQ 1915 Durham. Fits with a dOb 30 Nov 14, of the register.

John Whitfield Gardner and Hannah Emily Porter, had a daughter
Miriam Gardner, mms Porter, registered  sep Qtr 1898

Backwards, there are birth and baptism records to fit the parents birth years 1874 and 1875.
On A**y there are a number of trees:  giving John Whitfield Gardner's parents as:
Thomas Owen Gardner and Margaret Goundry/Wilson

So I think the 1939 Miriam, is not your one of the OP (Miriam Gardner born 9 Mar 1897 Stockton, with parents Joseph Gardner and Winifred Hartshorn Foster), unfortunately?

The father-in-Law informing of the death of his daughter's  husband Harold McKie in  1938, is more likely to be J for "John Whitfield Gardner"?

Cheers
AMBLY




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The Common Room / Re: Miriam Gardner
« on: Tuesday 19 March 24 20:13 GMT (UK)  »
Adding this,


MARRIAGE 1954
Sydney Kipling
Miriam McKie
Surrey Mar Qtr 1954

He was possibly the same man previously married to a Mary Jane Hutchinson "Jennie"  Hardy, in Durham, Sep Q 1925
She died 11 Apr 1951, Durham, was of Greencroft Lowes Barn Bank, Durham. and Probate to her husband, Sydney Kipling, Coal Merchant
His DoB was given as 3 mar 1898 on the register at 51 Gilesgate, Durham.

You mention none of the Gardners in 1939 appear to be her immediate family.......... do you know whose those Gardners were though? in relation to your Joseph Gardner.

Cheers AMBLY

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Here's what I had found - in case others might see more clues  ;D

BIRTH:
Mary Muir Boyd, registered JQ 1909, Bradford, Yorkshire

CENSUS 1911 Scotland: 1555 Paisley Road West, Govan, Pollockshields Ward
Head: William John Boyd, 27, single, Plumber, Hardware Merchant
Sister: Mary Boyd 23, unm, single
Neice: Mary Muir Boyd 2, b England
Nephew: Joseph Muir Boyd 1, b Glasgow
Boarder: William John Boyd 53, mar, b Ireland, Pavior (?), Govan Corporation

MARRIAGE 1915
Patrick McGinty
Mary Boyd
Married  1915, Hutchesontown

BIRTH 1918 James McGINTY, mms Boyd, reg Polloksheilds

BAPTISM 1918: Parish of Our Lady and St Margaret, Glasgow, Kinning Park (Roman Catholic)
James McGinty, 128 Park St.
In Latin - translated:
Born 30 Jan 1918, and baptised 6 Feb 1918, son of Patrick & Mary McGinty (Boyd),
Sponsor: Joan Boyd.
Side Note: Confirmed here 21 Dec 1926

CENSUS 1921 Scotland: Pollockshields (Index Only)
ref: 644//18 44/13, and 644/18 44/14
Patrick McGinty 37
Mary McGinty 32
James McGinty 3
Mary Muir 12
Joseph Muir 11

Cheers
AMBLY

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