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The Common Room / Re: Children's Nursery (Newburn)
« on: Thursday 26 January 23 23:09 GMT (UK)  »
Two thoughts - 

Some large factories/companies had nurseries for the children of the female staff. Some also had primary schools. 

In large families, the children's room(s) were often called the nursery.   

Regards 

Chas

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The Common Room / Re: John Godfrey marriage: does my reasoning stand up?
« on: Thursday 19 January 23 13:06 GMT (UK)  »
In living memory, letters from a government department were signed with -   

"I remain your obedient servant"   

Regards 

Chas

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The Lighter Side / Re: Bridal pregnancies?
« on: Monday 16 January 23 20:04 GMT (UK)  »
My wife's parents were married 23 hours before she was born, as the first child, in 1953.   

Regards 

Chas

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The Common Room / Re: Incest conundrum
« on: Monday 16 January 23 15:59 GMT (UK)  »
Same, but different. When I lived in Germany, we owned a rescue Great Dane - Astrid von Kliedbruckhof, by name. (pronounced Kleedbruchhof).  We sent off to the German Kennel Club for her pedigree papers. A very handsome document came back. The thing was that the breeding pool was so small that the same names appeared generation after generation. She was a total softy and daft as a brush - in spite of her size, she thought that she was a lapdog! 

A little "fun fact" - when an animal became a champion, they were given a new "family name". Her grandmother was descended from the line 'Liebstandart "Adolf Hitler"'. 

Regards 

Chas

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The Common Room / Re: Dublin Genealogy Help
« on: Sunday 15 January 23 20:39 GMT (UK)  »


.....the National Archives of Ireland was burnt to the ground by the IRA in 1922. .


Errrhhh - the NAI did not exist in 1922.

..the devastating destruction of the Public Record Office of Ireland, part of the Four Courts Complex, which housed seven centuries of Irelandís historical record.

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01s1o/
 

Yah, well, what ever they called it in those days, it was still burnt down wasn't it?

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The Common Room / Re: Dublin Genealogy Help
« on: Sunday 15 January 23 18:00 GMT (UK)  »
Good luck to you, pholahan. I think you will need it as the National Archives of Ireland was burnt to the ground by the IRA in 1922. What records that are available are on-line -   

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ 

Regards 

Chas

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Heraldry Crests and Coats of Arms / Re: Leeper Coat mentioned in Burke General Armory
« on: Saturday 14 January 23 18:47 GMT (UK)  »
I just signed up, I'm curious as to how a person would contact the folks in Dublin, to get a photo of the Coat of Arms, and how one would go looking for the Heraldry in 1189?


The general armory of England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales; comprising armoral bearings from the earliest to the present time. 
by. Burke, Bernard, Sir 1814-1892

Leeper or Leper (co. Donegal, originally of Scotland' Reg. Ulster's Offices; John Leeper, Burgess of Edinburgh, appended his seal to a deed dated 1 Sept 1189; Andrew Leper of Stranorlar, co. Donegal, made his will 23 Dec., 1669, and left two sons, William Leper and Andrew Leper.

Az. a chev. betw. three Leopards' faces or.  Crest- A leopard's face per pale or and sa. Motto- Regi Patriaeque.

Miss Jane A. Leeper, of Dublin, Ireland, daughter of Rev. Alexander L. Leeper, who for many years was Canon of St. Patrick's Cathedral, Dublin, Ireland sent this to a US Leeper long ago:

Original record is kept in Dublin.

The painting measures 6.5" by 8.5"
Described:
Shield--AZ--a chevron between three Leopard's faces, or crest, a Leopard's face, per pale, or and sa.
Motto- Regi Patriaeque--AZ--signifies azure, or gold or gilt; --sa-sable or black.

The motto translated is "For King and Country."

History shows that this heraldry was granted to one John Leeper for valant service to his country in the years 1189 A.D.
 

OK. Let us start at the beginning. There were no grants in 1189, because there were no heralds. People, all over the world, just assumed a coat of arms, painted it on a shield, and it was done.  There would not be any organized heraldry for another 300 years. 

That is not to say that there weren't any Leepers at that time. There might very well have been. The important thing to remember here is that the Dublin Library/National Archives were burnt down in 1922 by the IRA. It is nigh on impossible for a person today to find out when their great-grandfather was born, leave lone "history showing" anything. 

From the blazon, you have given, I have drawn the shield and crest. 

Shield - Azure a chevron between three Leopards' faces Or.   
Crest - A leopard's face per pale Or and Sable. 

Images are in .png so that you can change shades if you want. Like the College of Arms, I use very dark grey instead of black. Black is then reserved for outlines and emphasis. 

Regards 

Chas    

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The Common Room / Re: How long have you been researching your Genealogy?
« on: Friday 13 January 23 20:42 GMT (UK)  »
1999/2000 - My wife and I had a lot of "Family Myths" in our respective families - that's when we decided to prove or disprove them. 

Regards 

Chas

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The Common Room / Re: Your Blacksheep-Do they amuse you?
« on: Thursday 12 January 23 17:56 GMT (UK)  »
I have seen his birth entry, Madras prison service new warder general instructions card, his army ID and pay book, marriage certificate where his name is his birth name and "Formerly  Xxxx Xxxx" and finally his death certificate in his own name. His eldest son has/had the other Sergeants pay book - just the cover in the name of Xxxx Xxxx. 

He and my mother were very, very close - they were the only churchgoers in the family, they did a daily crossword together. When he was in prison, she wrote letters to him almost daily. I truly cannot see her lying to me about something that had happened 60 years before.   

Regards 

Chas

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