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Devon / Re: Temple Lodge Home for Inebriate Women in Torquay
« on: Monday 25 February 19 23:09 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Terry, yes it did, and moved to Castle Road as the premises were bigger, and they could therefore generate more income. The British Newspaper Archive has been a wonderful resource, I have managed to increase my list of ladies by 39% thanks to the BNA, as well as adding to my knowledge of the lives of the women who were in there. Although it tended to be those who were less well behaved who made the papers :) Iíve uncovered some very fascinating and tragic tales so far. Liz

Devon / Temple Lodge Home for Inebriate Women in Torquay
« on: Monday 25 February 19 15:12 GMT (UK)  »
I am researching the Temple Lodge Home for Inebriate Women in Torquay, which was operational from 1891-1927. It was run by the Church of England Temperance Society. It was located in Castle Road, where the EF boarding school now is.
Admission registers no longer survive, but using the 1901 and 1911 censuses, newspaper reports and minute books, I have compiled a list of 64 women who were patients at this establishment and am researching their lives. If anyone has any information about Temple Lodge or anyone who was a patient there, I would be very interested to hear from you. Liz

Lancashire / Re: Nelson House, Nelson Street. Manchester
« on: Monday 25 February 19 14:07 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, Iím afraid I canít tell you anything about Nelson House, but I thought Iíd pass on a tiny nugget of information in case it helps. Iím researching a lady called Emma Shaw who died there in 1901. She had serious, ongoing mental health problems, and was an alcoholic. She died aged 50 at Nelson House of chronic alcoholism, haemorrhagic gastritis and exhaustion on 2 September 1901. She was well-travelled in the UK and abroad, and had spent time in various institutions from London to Devon. She was a wealthy lady, and may well have self-funded her stay there. If there are any drawings, poems or artwork of hers in your albums, Iíd be very interested to see a photo! Liz

Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Denman One Name Study & DNA Project
« on: Friday 14 April 17 20:21 BST (UK)  »
Hi Robert
Thanks for your thoughts. I would be happy to have the results public, but 2 members who do not want their results displayed online, and agreed t test on this basis. When I last tried, I couldn't pick and choose whose results were displayed, it was all or nothing. I hope to set up a separate project website soon where I can remove from display the results of anyone who doesn't want their results displayed. All project members are advised to join the relevant haplogroup project, whose admins can advise on SNPs.

Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Denman One Name Study & DNA Project
« on: Friday 14 April 17 20:06 BST (UK)  »
Hi Dee!
Yes, what a coincidence! Wouldn't it be funny if we were related on the Jones line as well as Denman! FreeReg has good coverage for Somerset, and you might also find this website useful: I don't know if you're on Facebook but I've started a group just for those who have Somerset Denman ancestry, this is the URL:

Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Denman One Name Study & DNA Project
« on: Thursday 13 April 17 18:47 BST (UK)  »
Hi Dee, lovely to hear from you! It's always good to hear from another Denman researcher, especially one with South Petherton connections- that's my branch too! Liz

I started tracing my family history about 10 years ago and discovered that my great grandmother Ivy Edith was surnamed Willsman. I didnít realise just how unusual a name it was/is until I started tracing her ancestral line. I also became aware during census searches etc that the surname seemed to be Devon-centred.

I believe I have finally found the link between my Willsman family and the Welsman family of Sidbury. I have started a One Name Study on my great grandmotherís surname of Willsman, and have set up a DNA project, to establish if the Willsman and Welsman families are linked. The Y DNA test tells you about your direct male line, which would be your father, his father, and so on back in time. So only men bearing the surname Welsman, Wellsman, Willsman or Wilsman have the right DNA. This might also be able to tell us if the name is connected to any Welshman families.

A DNA project is an opportunity to uncover information not provided in the paper records, such as which lines are linked, are all people with that surname related, etc. The test is a harmless genealogy test using a cheek swab (like an ear bud) of a manís cheek cells, the test result is a string of numbers, and reveals no medical or personal information.

I have started a DNA Project for the Willsman, Wilsman, Welsman and Wellsman surnames, which can be found at
The goals of the project are to:

ē Discover information to help with our family history research
ē Discover which family trees are related
ē Discover information to help with brick walls
ē Confirm surname variants
ē Validate family history research
ē Get on file a DNA sample for trees at risk of extinction of the male line
ē Discover information about our distant origins

The studyís Profile Page on The Guild of One Name Studies website is here -

Iíd love to hear from you!

Liz Jones

Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Denman One Name Study & DNA Project
« on: Wednesday 02 January 13 14:54 GMT (UK)  »
My name is Liz Jones and I have started a Denman One Name Study and associated DNA Project at Family Tree DNA. I have been researching the history of the Denman surname since 1999.  Through my research I have become very interested in the history of the Denman name and its origins, as well as tracing my own Denman line.

A Surname Project traces members of a family that share a common surname. The project is just getting started, and we expect to have many exciting discoveries. Participating is an opportunity to
uncover information not provided in the paper records, which will help with your family history research. We will also discover which family trees are related. As the project progresses, the results for the various family trees will provide information about the evolution of the surname. Are all people with the surname Denman related? Where did the name originate? I canít promise
you the answers to these questions but by contributing to the study we will all
learn more about the name.

Early indications are that there are at least two lines of origin of the Denman surname.

The Y DNA test tells you about your direct male line, which would be your father, his father, and back in time. You must be male to take this simple cheek swab test, and you should bear the
Denman surname, although if you believe there is a Denman or variant in your direct male line, despite having a different surname, you are also welcome to participate. If you are female, you will need to find a direct line male Denman in your family tree to take the test and represent your tree, such as your father, brother, uncle or cousin.

Tests ordered through this project are charged at the special group rate which provides a substantial saving on the standard FTDNA price. By the way, I donít work for Family Tree DNA, nor do I benefit financially Ė Iíve just volunteered to start and administer the Denman project
in the hope that it will be of help to Denman researchers.

You can have a look at the Profile Page for my One Name Study here -
Further information about the DNA Project is available here:, or if you have any questions please don't hesitate to contact
me using the same link or via this message board.

Kind regards
Liz Jones

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