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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: William PENNOCK (1847) - baptism image
« on: Monday 08 April 24 00:38 BST (UK)  »
Thank you! But if you want to remove the image to avoid any issues, I can access the FindMyPast library edition.

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / William PENNOCK (1847) - baptism image
« on: Monday 08 April 24 00:06 BST (UK)  »
Hello

William PENNOCK (later WRAY) was born on 22 June 1818 in Wetwang and baptised on 11 July 1847 in the Wetwang parish church. His mother was Mary PENNOCK. Mary married Benjamin WRAY later that year on 23 November 1847 in Great Driffield. Benjamin became the father and William used the name WRAY. The family moved to South Australia in 1850.

My question relates to the baptism. I have found three records of his baptism on FamilySearch, which I reproduce in full at the end of this message. Some of the recods (as transcribed) mention Benjamin. I am looking for an image of the original baptism registration? I want to know if Benjamin was actually mentioned on an original baptism, or whether this was later inserted. Are there any suggestions on obtaining an original image of the baptism register as registered in Wetwang? I believe the set from the Borthwick Institute for Archives might be the best source.

The FamilySearch site states I might be able to see an original image at a partner organisation, and I am making those enquiries here in Canberra.

William was the subject of another discussion in 2016 where some very helpful people helped find his birth registration (which I subsequently obtained a certified copy of) (https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=746456.msg5936899).

Thank you

Craig

Baptism transcripts:

Baptism record 1: "England, Yorkshire, Parish Registers, 1538-2016", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:66BG-JJZY : Fri Mar 08 02:30:19 UTC 2024), Entry for William Wray and Benjamin, 11 July 1847. Accessed 7 April 2024.
:Name   William Wray
:Father's Name   Benjamin
:Father's Sex   Male
:Mother's Name   Mary Pennock
:Mother's Sex   Female
:Event Type   Baptism
:Event Date   11 July 1847
:Event Place   Wetwang, Yorkshire East Riding, England, United Kingdom
:Document Type   Baptisms
:Page Number   110
:Reference   PE 48/5
:Affiliate Name   East Riding Archives & Local Studies Service

Baptism record 2: "England, Yorkshire, Bishop's Transcripts, 1547-1957", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6824-6W1M : Thu Mar 07 08:33:51 UTC 2024), Entry for William Uray and Benjamin, 11 July 1847. Accessed 7 April 2024.
:Name   William Uray
:Father's Name   Benjamin
:Father's Sex   Male
:Mother's Name   Mary Pennock
:Mother's Sex   Female
:Event Type   Baptism
:Event Date   11 July 1847
:Event Place   Wetwang, Yorkshire East Riding, England, United Kingdom
:Page Number   110
:Affiliate Name   Borthwick Institute for Archives

Baptism record 3: "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NRW4-CFJ : 4 February 2023), William Pennock, 1847. Accessed 7 April 2024.
:Name   William Pennock
:Sex   Male
:Father's Name   Benjamin Wray
:Father's Sex   Male
:Mother's Name   Mary Pennock
:Mother's Sex   Female
:Event Type   Christening
:Event Date   11 Jul 1847
:Event Place   Wetwang, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom

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Cumberland / Re: Mary Elizabeth GRAHAM, born Maryport c1883
« on: Saturday 02 March 24 21:22 GMT (UK)  »
I just wanted to thank you all for your help above. Very much appreciated.

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Cumberland / Re: Mary Elizabeth GRAHAM, born Maryport c1883
« on: Saturday 02 March 24 09:39 GMT (UK)  »
... Possibly the Mrs Mary Elizabeth McGovern who set sail for Australia on 8 Dec 1927, with a son.
... Modified to add:
They sailed on the Berrima. Her address 162 Chatham St, Abercromby, Liverpool. (image on Ancestry)
Super helpful! Thank you. The Berrima arrived in Adelaide on 25 January 1928, with Mrs Mary E MCGOVERN (aged 44) and John Wallace (aged 18) (https://www.archives.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/839156/GRG_41_34_0_555-1928_Berrima.pdf).

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Cumberland / Re: Mary Elizabeth GRAHAM, born Maryport c1883
« on: Saturday 02 March 24 09:21 GMT (UK)  »
A John Wallace MCGOVERN died on 5 October 1966 (aged 57), in Woodville Gardens in South Australia (https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-database-search). So definitely the one!
Which explains why no children were mentioned on her death notice in 1980, perhaps no grandchildren (tbd).

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Cumberland / Re: Mary Elizabeth GRAHAM, born Maryport c1883
« on: Saturday 02 March 24 09:17 GMT (UK)  »
A John Wallace MCGOVERN died on 5 October 1966 (aged 57), in Woodville Gardens in South Australia (https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-database-search). So definitely the one!

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Cumberland / Re: Mary Elizabeth GRAHAM, born Maryport c1883
« on: Saturday 02 March 24 09:03 GMT (UK)  »
Possibly the Mrs Mary Elizabeth McGovern who set sail for Australia on 8 Dec 1927, with a son.
Thank you. Unfortunately, the public SA arrival records (searchable passenger lists) end in 1924 (https://www.archives.sa.gov.au/finding-information/discover-our-collection/migration-and-crew/immigration-passenger-lists). But I might be able to see when she arrived in Australia from her death registration (forthcoming).

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Cumberland / Re: Mary Elizabeth GRAHAM, born Maryport c1883
« on: Saturday 02 March 24 08:58 GMT (UK)  »
GRO Index (it shows mother's maiden name.)

Graham, Mary Elizabeth reg. Cockermouth December quarter 1883  vol 10B page 556
Mother's maiden name Wallace
Thank you - I agree that's the most likely birth.

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Cumberland / Re: Mary Elizabeth GRAHAM, born Maryport c1883
« on: Saturday 02 March 24 08:54 GMT (UK)  »
In case you don't have an Ancestry subscription, here is the 1891 on familysearch:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4J6C-NMM
Thank you. Yes, that looks like her and family.

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