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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: William Loader - c1808 Marylebone
« on: Sunday 14 June 20 14:13 BST (UK)  »
Thanks carol8353. I hadn't realised that the ages were now there, which is certainly more helpful. When I sent for a certificate, I was sent the 1860 one, but am not convinced it is the correct one -he was 56 so would have been born around 1804. Looks like the 1858 one would have been born around 1802. Mine was aged 35c in 1841 and 43 in 1851- soooooo - maybe I should be looking elsewhere for his death? Any ideas? Sheila x

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Loader family
« on: Sunday 14 June 20 13:35 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Beattrix66  .... do you have the death certificate for this? When I sent for a cert. I gave the details which I had and was sent one for 1860, but I immediately decided it was probably the wrong one. If you have the cert. what info does it give? Which of William's children are you descended from? Lots of questions! Lovely to hear from you x

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: William Loader - c1808 Marylebone
« on: Saturday 16 March 13 12:45 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ciderdrinker, I reckoned you meant 1797!!
There was a William Loades born in Middlesex c1807 who married in London 1832 and died in Durham 1869 aged 62. So I think this is the same one you suggested.
I also know that he wasn't the son of Giles Loader, because that William was given the Freedom of the City of London in Dec 1860.
The William born 1806 to William and Ann appears to have died in 1844 aged 38. He was married to Mary Ann March.
I am having problems following the William born to Samuel and Martha.
I can't see any other births that might be in that year range.
So I am slowly finding out who he WASN'T the son of!!!!
Any other ideas??

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: William Loader - c1808 Marylebone
« on: Friday 15 March 13 16:16 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ciderdrinker, I hadn't seen that one, but I feel that he would not have been classed as 35 in 1841, or 43 in 1851, like my ancestor. Thankyou for looking.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / William Loader - c1808 Marylebone
« on: Thursday 14 March 13 22:29 GMT (UK)  »
I need some help in finding the parents of William Loader, please.
The 1841 census has him as 35 b. Middlesex. 1851 (nameless!) Loader 43 b. Marylebone. So, born around 1806/1808 ish. He married Harriet Read (1808) in St Anne Soho in 1828. By 1861 she was a widow, so his death was between 1851 and 1861. There were 4 William Loader deaths in Marylebone in this period. 2 in 1856, 1 in 1858 and 1 in 1860. As far as I can see, one of the 1856 deaths was an 8 week old boy. When I sent for the death cert. and gave all the details which I knew, I was sent the 1860 cert. I am not convinced that this was the correct one, as the informant (who was present at the death) was not a member of the family even though he had left a widow and grown children. This William was 56 - so born c1804.
I suppose there are still the other 2 certs to think about, but as GRO had all the details, they probably aren't the right age etc anyway.
There are a number of trees on Ancestry with William on, but they all seem to have Joseph Henry Loader and Elizabeth Hannah Sheldon as his parents. Joseph and Elizabeth did have a son William but he was born in 1820. They were married in St. Giles Cripplegate, London, England in 1815, so I don't think that these trees are correct.
Any help/pointers would be appreciated.

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: 1851/1861 Lintrathen census
« on: Saturday 02 June 07 15:10 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Evi, I'm still working on it as well! I had found the Jean born to John and Janet in 1796 (but I had also found one born in 1789 and wasnt sure which one might have been yours) and was keeping them in mind, because I have a James Nicoll who married Helen Edward in 1783. Do you know if Janet had a sister? I have just been checking and the child born 22/29 July 1792 was James not David Ogilvy. The other David 1790 and the twins, John and Janet are submitted entries not extracted, so are you quite sure about those ones? The names certainly fit in with the parents.
I look forward to seeing what else you come up with tomorrow!
... Sheila

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: 1851/1861 Lintrathen census
« on: Tuesday 29 May 07 22:31 BST (UK)  »
Hello Ev
I havent come across Jane Ogilvie yet, but I havent spent too long on this branch of the family yet. This is definitely going to be my next branch to tackle! I'll try to keep you in mind if I do find her... Sheila

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Stirlingshire / Re: 1841 look up for the Barrie family please
« on: Saturday 11 March 06 19:36 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Dano,

I suppose another scenario for 1841 is that her parents had already moved to Kirriemuir in Angus, as that is where she had her first child in Dec 1848.

I also dont have a date for her marriage, but I suppose it was around 1848 as that was when she had her first child, and she would have been around 20 years old then.

Her children were :

Betsy 12 Dec 1848 Kirriemuir parents Helen Barret/Robert Allardice
John 27 Mar 1851 Kirriemuir parents Ellen Barret/Robert Allardice
George 20 May 1854 Kirriemuir parents Ellen Barret/Robert Allardice
Duncan Milne 10 Nov 1856 Kirriemuir - Helen Barrie/Robert Allardice
Robert 8 Jul 1859 Kirriemuir - Helen Barrie/Robert Allardice
James 25 Jan 1862 kirriemuir - Helen Barrie/Robert Allardice
Charles 3 Mar 1865 Kirriemuir - Helen Barrie/Robert Allardice
Isabella 25 Sep 1866 Kirriemuir - Helen Barrie/Robert Allardice
Jessie Mill 17 Feb 1869 Kirriemuir - Helen Barrie/Robert Allardice
Helen 6 Nov 1873 Kirriemuir - Helen Barrie/Robert Allardice

Helens husband, Robert Allardice died 17/10/1887 in Kirriemuir

Helen died at 16 Lower Bridge Street in Stirling 21/4/1916
I havent been able to see the 1901 Stirling census yet to see who Helen was staying with (or maybe she was on her own) as that might have given some clue of her family.

Sometimes an extra pair of eyes finds something that should be obvious!

1871 and 1881 census both say that she was born in Larbert.

Hope you manage to make a better detective than me!

regards .. Sheila


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Stirlingshire / Re: 1841 look up for the Barrie family please
« on: Monday 06 March 06 13:52 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for looking, Anne.  She is definitely one of my biggest stumbling blocks!
If anyone does have the 1841 census, I am still looking for any information at all on this family.
Are there any other sites apart from Scotlands People where I can find the 1901 Stirling census, to find out who Helen Allardice c1828 was staying with?
Any help appreciated ... Sheila

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