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Yes!  I think we can agree that William Thompson's mother was Jane Thompson.

I am wondering if the entry on family Search was just a marriage notice, then maybe Jane Thompson didn't actually marry Joseph Clark as we can't actually find a marriage on FreeBMD ???

These are a couple of points from reply 14. It is possible that the Jane Thompson mentioned is one and the same with William Thompson being born before she was married to Joseph

Reply 14...
I've just been having a look on Familysearch and a couple of entries caught my eye, both in the Lanchester District.

1.   Baptism of a William Thompson, mother Jane Thompson

Name   William Thompson
Event Type   Christening
Event Date   25 Sep 1852
Event Place   Lanchester, Durham, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original)   Lanchester, Durham, England
Sex   Male
Mother's Name   Jane Thompson

2.  Marriage of a Jane Thompson to Joseph Clark

Name   Joseph Clark
Event Type   Marriage Notice
Event Date   18 Jul 1852
Event Place   Lanchester, Durham, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original)   Lanchester, Durham, England
Sex   Male
Spouse's Name   Jane Thompson

Hello Neil
I wondered if you had done (or considered) a DNA test.  It is a bit of a long shot but we don't seem to be coming to any definite conclusions at the moment.  There are some trees on Ancestry that seen to make William Clark and William Thompson the same person.  I think you mentioned that you were directly related to Sarah Clark/Thompson (the daughter of William Clark and Ann Hagan).  If you found you had a DNA match to one of the descendants of William Thompson and Margaret Ann Nelson, then I think that you could conclude that  William Thompson and William Clark to be one and the same person (not that I'm in any way an expert on DNA  ::).
Just a thought!


I think the two William Thompson's are the same person. On the 1901 census, he has Mary Ann and Elizabeth living with him as well as children from his marriage with Margaret Ann Nelson.

Still a mystery though whether William Clark and William Thompson are one and the same person.  The time between Feb 1881 and April 1881 seems very short to start a new relationship  ???

Hi Neil
I see that William Thompson signed baby Margaret's death Certificate.
Did William Clark sign the marriage certificate that you have.  If not, then it looks like they may be different people.

Neil, the birth is registered on the GRO in the Lanchester district

GRO Reference: 1888  J Quarter in LANCHESTER  Volume 10A  Page 299

Its quite a mystery, Neil.  William Thompson and William Clark are such common names and the area where we are searching is a big coal mining area, so coal miner is a common occupation.
I couldn't find an Elizabeth Thompson with mothers maiden name of Hagan or O'Hagan in the GRO either.  I'll keep looking  :)

Jane in 1861 would be his grandmother though.
Perhaps she had daughters who had illegitimate children - there is an Eleanor, 4 yrs (I think) with them too.

Hmm, maybe...

If the birth cert I have for Elizabeth Thompson 28th Feb 1886 (who appears on 1891 Census) is the correct cert, then her father is named as William John Thompson / mother Mary Thompson formerly Thompson  ???

Could William Thompson have been a lodger / classed as head of household after William Clark's death? Perhaps Ann & Children changed surname to escape poor law / workhouse?

You're right, it's tough to find anything to explain the circumstances

I'm not sure this is the correct birth for 'your' Elizabeth.
On FreeBMD, here is a marriage for a William John Thompson to Mary Thompson - June Qtr 1880.
The family is on the 1891 census (RG12/4077/28) - They have a daughter Elizabeth, born 1886.
William Thompson   30   Head
Mary Thompson 27   Wife
Sarah Thompson 10   Daughter
Joseph Thompson 9   Son
Elizabeth Thompson 5   Daughter
Benjamine Thompson3   Son
Robert Thompson 52   Father
Samuel Thompson 21   Brother

Lanarkshire / Re: 225 Bath Street Glasgow
« on: Saturday 14 January 23 19:34 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you so much everyone for the information. Annie must have based herself there during visits to the UK. 
Thanks again

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