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World War One / Re: Help please WW1 Soldier not listed on memorial
« on: Monday 21 November 22 11:34 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: ALAMO2008 on Monday 21 November 22 11:01 GMT (UK)
Reading just now page 673 of Volume III of the History of the King's Liverpool Regt
The 1st Btn were of the 2nd Division of the VI Corps
The Battle of Albert 21st to 23rd August 1918
The 1st attacked at 11.00 a.m. on 23rd August on the left of the Brigade
Ervillers was in their hands by Midday
Despite very heavy Machine Gun  Fire from Mory Copse - Hally Copse Ridge
Heavy Shelling from 2 p.m. experienced
270 other ranks Casualties
Withdrawn 24/25th August
Sent to Clearing station Field Hospital
Where he Died of his Wounds probably on 28th August 1918

Thanks for that information and yes I would agree that sadly Herbert was fatally wounded during that battle.. regards

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World War One / Re: Help please WW1 Soldier not listed on memorial
« on: Sunday 20 November 22 13:18 GMT (UK)  »
ALAMO2008
Many thanks for your informative post. Such details explain a lot and such sad that he lost his life at 18 as did many others who rushed to sign up to serve their country. I’ve got online access to the regiments war diaries and trying to work out when he suffered his fatal injuries.. thank you to everyone who posted..

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World War One / Re: Help please WW1 Soldier not listed on memorial
« on: Wednesday 26 October 22 20:19 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: John915 on Wednesday 26 October 22 14:04 BST (UK)
Good afternoon,

Just for your interest I have since found this. A complete list of Bolton war memorials which includes all the little known ones in churches, schools, halls and many other places. Quite an extensive list even for a place the size of Bolton. Some of course will only have a few names and many of thise will be repeated on the main memorials.

https://boltonremembers.org/bolton-war-memorials/

John915

Yes, I visited the archives today and many memorials scattered about the town. Thanks once again for your assistance..

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World War One / Re: Help please WW1 Soldier not listed on memorial
« on: Wednesday 26 October 22 11:22 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: John915 on Tuesday 25 October 22 22:46 BST (UK)
Good evening,

A little research shows that Farnworth does not have it's own war memorial, or not one that's listed anyway. There are several war memorials in Bolton, I have looked at two and he is not on them, Bolton Boys and Smithills Hall Chapel.

The most likely place will require a visit. The main Bolton war memorial is outside of the town hall but has no names inscribed on it. Instead they are recorded on the Bolton Roll of Honour which is kept in the town hall.

John915

Added; After searching further I have found an online version of the roll of honour. Your man should be on page 55 but isn't. However if you put his name in the search box there he is. It may be that he is listed in an addendum somewhere.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01rw3/
He is listed as 5th batt Loyal North Regt so should be on their memorial in Bolton. I couldn't find a close up of the names on there.

Thanks for your efforts. I have made some progress this morning and discovered that Herbert was added to the war memorial in Farnworth after the original nameplates were stolen a few years ago!.. a visit to the local archives has resulted in a copy of his enlistment with the Kings Liverpool regiment but no report on his death. I am told that some parents refused to allow the publication of their loved ones deaths. This has resulted in Herbert being omitted from a book ‘Fallen in the Fight’ written about soldiers from Farnworth & Kearsley who lost their lives in the Great War. This book was compiled from newspaper reports hence the omission. I visited the local archives and was told his service records perished.. hopefully I can track down the war diaries of his regiment for the day he died on 29 August 1918. Many thanks

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World War One / Re: Help please WW1 Soldier not listed on memorial
« on: Tuesday 25 October 22 19:41 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: manukarik on Tuesday 25 October 22 19:34 BST (UK)
There are two entries here, so different people?

http://www.inmemories.com/Cemeteries/terlincthun2.htm


FOX HERBERT
United Kingdom Private 105303 The King's (Liverpool Regiment) 29/08/1918 Age: 18 II. F. 28.

FOX H
United Kingdom Private 201238Y York and Lancaster Regiment 27/10/1918 VI. D. 21.

Yes, My Great Uncle is the first one.. thank you

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World War One / Re: Help please WW1 Soldier not listed on memorial
« on: Tuesday 25 October 22 19:23 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so far for all  the information and yes he could have served in both regiments. I still need to find him on a memorial or somehow confirm he isn’t on one. A local book was published listing all the fallen soldiers in WW1 from the Farnworth & Kearsley area and he isn’t listed!..

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World War One / Help please WW1 Soldier not listed on memorial
« on: Tuesday 25 October 22 17:28 BST (UK)  »

Hi, there. I’ve started on a quest to find out where, if at all my great uncle is listed on any memorial in his home town of Farnworth, Bolton. There is great confusion as on one website in Bolton his details are listed as follows:- Fox, Herbert-
Son of Edward Ernest and Margaret Fox, of 18, Clelland Street, Farnworth, Bolton, Lancashire. Enlisted under-age October
1915, 5th Bn., Loyal North Lancashire Regiment.. yet on the CWGC his details are as follows :-

PRIVATE
HERBERT FOX
Service Number: 105303
• Regiment & Unit/Ship
The King's (Liverpool Regiment)
1st Bn.
a Date of Death
Died 29 August 1918
Age 18 years old
• Buried or commemorated at
TERLINCTHUN BRITISH CEMETERY, WIMILLE II. F. 28.
France
Country of Service
United Kingdom
Additional Info
Son of Mr. and Mrs. E. E. Fox, of Farnworth, Bolton, Lancashire.

I’m wondering if someone could please help and search the WW1 service records to confirm which regiment he served with. I’ve attached his photo and I’m convinced the cap badge is that of the Loyal North Regiment.. He isn’t listed on the memorial in Bolton of the Loyal North Regiment nor does he feature on the Liverpool regiment memorial.. so confused and would be very grateful for your assistance in order that Herbert can be remembered.. Many thanks in advance..


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World War One / Re: WW1 Records sought..
« on: Friday 25 March 22 09:22 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks to those who assisted in the search for Walter’s records. It is much appreciated.

Jayhen

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World War One / Re: WW1 Records sought..
« on: Thursday 24 March 22 09:26 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: crisane on Thursday 24 March 22 08:52 GMT (UK)
Medal Roll Index card
Walter Daubney
Military Date:   1914-1920
Military Place:   England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, United Kingdom
Regiment or Corps:   Loyal North Lancashire Regiment, regiment number 3632
the King's (Liverpool) Regiment regimental number 204851
Theatre of war first in - France
Date of entry - 12 February 1915
He received the British. Victory and Silver medals and the above mentioned Silver War badge

Just noted it says ‘William Daubney’ on the 2nd entry yet the service no matches Walter in the first entry?

Regards Jayhen

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