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Hello Lily M,

My Australian correspondents have confirmed Thomas WILLIAMS was transported aboard the Randolph on 18/04/1849, eventually disembarking in Sydney on 20/08/1849.......he had been convicted at the Old Bailey on 04/01/1847 and processed for transportation via Newgate, Millbank and Parkhurst Prisons.   I should have quoted his date of birth as 1830 (age 17 in 1847), rather than the 1832/1833 that my correspondents use or even the 1837 in the Ancestry Public Family Trees.   By the way, the Old Bailey transcript states his Master was Edward HOBBS.

Identifying his previous conviction is problematic, simply because I have no idea of the crime and when it was committed.......unless you can offer some suggestions ??? ::)

For now,


PS:    My apologies:  you have already cited the 1846 case which is a definite possibility.

Hello Milliepede,

Excellent research.............certainly the right person but some of the information relating to his life pre-transportation was probably written by Hans Christian ANDERSEN ;D   However, your research, particularly his age/date of birth cited by the Trees, reminds me about the lesson I keep forgetting, namely, that accuracy of records and transcriptions is always questionable.

Bookbox:   It seems the 1841 Census void you mention may be the culprit for my failure to find the family.

For the moment,


Thank You.

I ran through the innumerable 1841 Census and BDM entries for Thomas WILLIAMS using Ancestry, FindMyPast, FamilySearch et al, which only underpinned "Mission Impossible".

You mention a Family Tree but no referenced citation ???



This request may prove "Mission Impossible".

I understand from correspondents in Australia that Thomas WILLIAMS was born c1832 in St. James, London, the son of Thomas WILLIAMS, a Sawyer, and his wife Isabella.   There are no other details regarding his parentage/siblings etc., including from sight of Australian family BDM Certificates, and as he was transported in 1849 little else to research in England.   Sadly, his criminal documentation only offers that when he was sentenced to 7 years transportation at the Old Bailey on 04/01/1847 he was shown to be a Ladies Boot and Shoe Maker.

If anyone can throw some light on his parentage/siblings I would be extremely grateful.

This message will not self-destruct after five seconds 8) ::)

For the moment, thank you


Surrey / Re: William TANWELL, born 1841, Brush Maker, Camberwell (?)
« on: Sunday 12 May 19 09:32 BST (UK)  »
Good Morning jonw65,

Thank you for this piece of research.......I am very grateful.   It certainly looks as though you have opened up several avenues to explore profitably. 8)

For the moment,


Sussex / Re: Thomas WILKINS, Wife Ellen (nee FOOTE)
« on: Friday 10 May 19 14:58 BST (UK)  »

I owe you an enormous amount of gratitude........thank you.    I had trawled through the Inward Passenger listings for Victoria and hoped the Caroline Agnes reference was correct but it was the Islington connection you uncovered which made the search fall into place.

Again, thank you,


Sussex / Thomas WILKINS, Wife Ellen (nee FOOTE)
« on: Friday 10 May 19 13:35 BST (UK)  »

This gentleman, his wife and family are causing considerable difficulty tracing, largely due to minimum personal details.

First, the family emigrated to Australia before 1851.   Second, I am led to understand they lived in Brighton and that a daughter, Ellen, was born in 1832   Third, I have no dates of birth, marriage, other children etc. for the husband/wife.

My apologies but that is the extent of my knowledge passed to me from a descendant in Australia I am corresponding with ??? ??? ::).

I hope someone can help to identify the family.

Thank you,


Surrey / Re: William TANWELL, born 1841, Brush Maker, Camberwell (?)
« on: Saturday 04 May 19 14:39 BST (UK)  »
I am now satisfied it was not my incompetent searching abilities failing to unearth William TANWELL, rather your messages and the general lack of response confirm he is secretive to say the least ???

Louisa Maud you mention finding "3 entries on just 1 census"..........I wonder if you would mind citing the reference please.

For the moment


Australia / Re: Western Australia: Henry Lewis George McREAVY, born 1918
« on: Sunday 28 April 19 16:27 BST (UK)  »

Thank you everyone for all your information.    I am extremely grateful, if not a little surprised with the details.

The family were aware that Henry's (Harry's) wife Aunty Edith McREAVY (Scotty) had been admitted to a Care Home suffering from dementia, but that was in Perth in the 1990's.   To learn that Uncle Harry died in Queensland in 2007 must mean that he and Aunty "returned" to Queensland, where it seems, according to the Letters of Administration information, she died about 5 years later.

The overall story of my family, a magical mixture of Welsh and Irish, is somewhat confusing anyway  8)

Once again, thank you for your help.


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