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Shropshire / Re: The Price family, Ludlow
« on: Sunday 19 February 17 15:22 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, Maybe you have already found the answer to your question about Sarah Price (b 1837ish) but I believe her to be my great great grandma. She married John Edge (1837-1904) and they had seven children of whom I am aware : Alice 1858, Emily Martha (my great Grandma b1867), Charlotte Ellen (b1870), Maria (b1872), John Henry (b1874), Annie Elizabeth (b1878) and William Richard (b1880). I am not sure why there is such a gap between first and second children.
Apart from the coincidence of a child called Charlotte, as was Sarahīs mother, I find that in the 1871 census both this family and the family of Bartholomew Price (her brother b 1831) are living at 15 Bell Lane, Ludlow St Lawrence so although I have not yet found a marriage cert for John and Sarah I am reasonably confident that I have the right person.
Hope this helps, Regards  Gareth Jenkins

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World War One / Re: First World War Uniforms : Identification please?
« on: Monday 02 December 13 13:48 GMT (UK)  »
Have heard back from my cousin and she has confirmed that Tudorīs wife, though christened Clara, didnīt like the name and preferred to be known as Olive so that explains that. Tudor did indeed end his days at Garden City. This info from Tudorīs niece, now in her nineties. Thanks for all the help with him. I know Iīm being greedy but if anyone can supply more on Idris and Rees, the soldiers in the picture, we should be very grateful.
Gareth

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World War One / Re: First World War Uniforms : Identification please?
« on: Monday 02 December 13 11:52 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you one and all! I have now had time to digest all of this info and it does seem very likely that my great uncle was the Tudor Christmas Williams discussed. A family member has left a note that Tudor was on minesweeper duties during the war (and became an engine driver later), so that ties in with the converted trawler Lapwing II, Hugh. The family lived at 20 Stuart Street, not 24 Stewart Street, but Iīm putting that down to transcription error. I have written to my cousin to ask whether she knows of the Garden City address. Thank you Westmoreland for the info on Idris and Jool for identifying Olive/Clara but I am grateful to you all for taking such an interest in my enquiry.

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World War One / Re: First World War Uniforms : Identification please?
« on: Sunday 01 December 13 20:28 GMT (UK)  »
Iīm getting dizzy now! Yes my cousin has noted on Ancestry that the SS Lapwing was a cargo ship, however the start of my enquiry here was about uniforms. Is the uniform worn by Tudor Royal Navy or was he in the merchant navy? If the latter then he may have been a crew member of the SS Lapwing my cousin mentions. If he was RN then could he have been on the HMS Lapwing which was also around at the time I think? I just donīt know enough about the subject to decide which way to go. I assume there was a difference between the uniforms?  Iīll write to her to ask whether Olive could also be Clara and whether Tudor might be Tudor Christmas as that may help resolve some of the puzzles. Iīm also interested to know what the army uniforms are, if anyone can recognise them from the photo.

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World War One / Re: First World War Uniforms : Identification please?
« on: Sunday 01 December 13 19:51 GMT (UK)  »
My cousin, who has the originals of these photos, has another picture of the three brothers taken in the back garden of 20 Stuart Street Merthyr. I donīt think there is a Stewart Street but maybe thatīs just the spelling that the person writing it down used. As far as we know Tudor was married to Olive Hutson (b1894) and they had three children, the youngest (David A Williams) born in 1923. All three brothers seem to have survived the war. What else can I tell you to help? Iīm really amazed at what you are all finding.
Regards


Gareth

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World War One / Re: First World War Uniforms : Identification please?
« on: Sunday 01 December 13 19:18 GMT (UK)  »
Iīm overwhelmed with all this info! Keyboard86 you are right about the family, Rees and Anne were my great grandparents (Emily, their daughter was my maternal grandma). Tudor was the sailor but I donīt have another name for him, though if it was Christmas then I assume he was born on Dec 25th (like another great uncle on my fatherīs side of the family!). Idris went on to be a Baptist minister and Iīm trying to follow him through his life - Iīm pretty certain he was in Cradley Heath in the 1930īs and wrote a book about the history of his church. HAvenīt started on Rees yet.

Thank you to everyone for all of this,

Regards

Gareth

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World War One / Re: First World War Uniforms : Identification please?
« on: Sunday 01 December 13 18:34 GMT (UK)  »
As far as I know he had no other names, and Iīm afraid the best I can do for a dob is about 1892 in Merthyr Tydfil. On the other photo are his two brothers Idris and Rees but I donīt suppose that helps at all!

Thanks, Gareth.

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World War One / Re: First World War Uniforms : Identification please?
« on: Sunday 01 December 13 17:48 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for such a prompt response! I only know that the man on the right was my great uncle Tudor Williams. The other sailor is not named.

Regards

Gareth

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World War One / First World War Uniforms : Identification please?
« on: Sunday 01 December 13 17:04 GMT (UK)  »
Can anyone help by identifying the uniforms on the attached photos please? The sailors cap reads "Lapwing II" but there were several ships by this name, both royal navy and merchant navy. All help gratefully received!

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