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1871 Ann Marrin, wid & son James in Usworth, Durham

There is this 1881 that would put Ann death in 1885

Name   Ann Marron
Gender   Female
Death Age   72
Birth Date   1813
Death Date   abt 1885
Burial Date   27 Nov 1885
Burial Place   Chester Le Street, Durham, England
FHL Film Number   1894227
Reference ID   65

WILSON, JAMES    mmn   MARRON 
GRO Reference: 1880  D Quarter in CHESTER-LE-STREET  Volume 10A  Page

1881 - Usworth, Durham
Thomas Wilson 28 Head
Sarah A. Wilson   27   Wife, Whitehaven, Cumberland
Margaret A. Wilson 8 Daughter
Sarah A. Wilson 3 Daughter
James Wilson Son
Ann Morrow 70 Boarder Workington, Cumberland
Richard Morrow 27 Boarder, Whitehaven, Cumberland
John Morrow 26 Boarder "

John & Richard would fit as sons of Patrick from census.

Not locating a marriage or any baptisms for children. It is possible that Patrick was son of Richard only, as there is a large gap between first child & second.

Maybe try Scotland for marriage? There does appear to be the surname Carney in Scotland?

Cas

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Anyone trying to help, think this is the family going by first post. Lots of variations on surname

1851 - Preston Quarter, Cumberland
Piece 2437, Folio 176, Page number 2

All b Workington, Cumberland, except Richard

Richard Mariner 42 Head Ireland
An Mariner   40   Wife
Patrick Mariner 21 Son
Denis Mariner 10 Son
James Mariner 2 Son

1841 -Allerdale above Derwent, Cumberland, transcribed Meler on A - both parents born out of county.

Cas

Possible marriage for parents of Thomas

Day Month   13-Feb Year   1768
Parish Circuit Or Chapel   Crowan
Groom Fn   Thomas
Groom Sn   WEBSTER
Groom Age   
Groom Residence   otp
Groom Rank Profession   tinner
Groom Signed / Marked (S/M)   S
Groom Father Name   
Groom Father Rank Profession   
Bride Fn   Joan
Bride Sn   NICHOLAS
Bride Age   
Bride Residence   otp
Bride Condition   spinster
Bride Rank Profession   
Bride Signed / Marked (S/M)   M
Bride Father Name   
Bride Father Rank Profession   
Banns / Licence (B/L)   B
Witness Fn1   Henry
Witness Sn1   ODGER
Witness Fn2   Thomas
Witness Sn2   KNEEBONE
Transcriber Notes   1889 copy of register
Transcriber   Sue Mutton

Marriage also recorded in Helston. Could be related to brides parish? Around 4 miles from Crowan

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/CON/Helston

Cas

1851 Thomas gives pob as Crowan

There is this baptism from Cornwall OPC

https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/

Day Month   29-Oct
Year   1776
Parish Circuit Or Chapel   Crowan
Forename   Thomas
Surname   WEBSTER
Sex   
Age Or Date Of Birth   
Father Forename   Thomas
Mother Forename   Joan

Also recorded as Thos. Sister Margaret/Margt baptism 1772 Crowan also recorded twice as written.

Cas

Elias is with married son David & family in 1861. Death 18 Dec 1862

ELIAS, ELIAS    age 73 
GRO Reference: 1862  D Quarter in BEDWELLTY  Volume 11A  Page 68
 
Executor of his probate gives son Thomas, there is a possible born c1816 in area.

Online tree for family gives a DNA connection as father being David Elias - 1841 census bc 1766 farmer, living Penbryn.

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CGN/Penbryn - see church records for info where kept.

Cas