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The Common Room / Re: Mc Stinson (?) Private School, Blackpool 1920
« on: Friday 05 April 24 15:26 BST (UK)  »
Thank you all so much for this. Unfortunately I only splashed out on a FindMyPast transcription - I might have done better to pay the extra pound and viewed the image! They are an unusual family - Jesse's father was an occult scientist! So I now have a more complete picture of their lives.
Many thanks,
Erica.

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The Common Room / Mc Stinson (?) Private School, Blackpool 1920
« on: Friday 05 April 24 14:49 BST (UK)  »
On the 1921 register, 79 Hornby Road, Blackpool, I have found an ancestor, (Jesse Hardacre, born 1897, Keighley), teaching at the Mc Stinson Private School, Blackpool. The name of the school may have been mis-transcribed but I can't find any school with this or similar name in Blackpool in the 1920s. He was a musician, so presumably taught music! Can anyone help find where this school might have been? I did wonder if it was the now Rossall Boarding School but the history is not conclusive.
Thank you for looking.
Erica

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The pictures and maps are great, thank you - they really bring the "stoy" to life. It sound as though my ancester was lucky to be in there.
Erica.

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There's an advert in the Leeds Intelligencer, 23 Aug 1845, for the "Retreat, Castleton Lodge" for persons afflicted with disorders of the mind.
Situated "on rising ground, at the opening of Airedale, little more than a mile from the town of Leeds."

Possibility?

This certainly sounds right - although on both the 1841 and 1851 census the superintendant was Robert Peck and the advert states that it was Samuel Smith in 1845! Nice to see that the male inmates were provided with activities - I wonder what the women were supposed to do! Thank you for this information which does shed more light on the establishment.
Erica.

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I have found a distant ancestor on the 1841 census in "The Retreat or Licensed Asylum for the cure of Insane Persons". The location is Wortley - Parish of Leeds. There are 16 patients, a superintendant, matron and 6 staff. This makes up the entire census so there are no clues as to the roads around the establishment to show where it is.

On the 1851 census it seems to have become "Castleton House Asylum", having the same superintendant, but Inmates are now referred to as "lunatics" rather than "patients" as in 1841, when it seems they were treated much more sympathetically. Looking at the census it seems to be in the Botany Bay area of Wortley.

I have tried google and can only find the "Retreat" in York - a Quaker establishment, created for the care of individuals with mental health issues. I assume that the two are connected but can find no records for the Leeds asylum or Castleton House.

I wondered if anyone could provide more details?

Thank You.




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The Common Room / Re: Lunatic Asylum and bigamous marriage. Help please!
« on: Saturday 29 July 23 10:21 BST (UK)  »


I will try and get hold of the asylum records.
Thank you all for your positive help.
Erica

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The Common Room / Re: Lunatic Asylum and bigamous marriage. Help please!
« on: Saturday 29 July 23 10:19 BST (UK)  »
If you use Ancestry, they have a document showing that Hannah Crann, wife of Joseph Crann was living in Hunslet in 1847:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01sjc/

She was called upon to swear an oath relating to her brother Joseph Taylor's rights of settlement.  Presumably she was considered to be of sound mind on 6 August 1847.

I did find this, thank you - what difficult times they lived in!

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The Common Room / Re: Lunatic Asylum and bigamous marriage. Help please!
« on: Saturday 29 July 23 10:14 BST (UK)  »
There is this person in 1841 1298 /book 10/folio 13/page 19

He is transcribed as Joseph Chale, 32 yrs and living at Littlemoor, Pudsey

Family Search has him as Joseph Hall  ???
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ5J-NDY
Hi, this is almost certainly him as he was living with Hannah in Pudsey on the 1851 census.
Thank you for your help.

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The Common Room / Re: Lunatic Asylum and bigamous marriage. Help please!
« on: Friday 28 July 23 07:36 BST (UK)  »
That's interesting, how terrible, poor lady. It seems a similar situation to my ancester. Hannah did not have any children but perhaps she lost one which would understandably have affected her state of mind! At least she was eventually released but I feel so sorry for the second "wife" who was then just disgarded!

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