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Cardiganshire / Richardes family Penglais
« on: Saturday 10 July 21 20:58 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

This subject has briefly been mentioned in previous threads, but I haven’t gone into much detail. One of my ancestors, Mary James, gave birth to a daughter called Avarina James (born March 23rd, 1854), later to be married to David Warrington. Another in specific certificate there is no mention of the father.

According to family gossip, Mary had a liaison with somebody she worked for, apparently from the Richardes family. I have been told that he was the second son, and he went off in the Navy or army, and possibly went to India.

I’m doing some research, I think the Man she possibly had a liaison with is called Roderick William Richards, of the Penglais estate in Aberystwyth.

Avarina before she married lived with her mother and father in waunfawr, in Aberystwyth. We have been told that she was given a property possibly through having her liaison, but unsure if this is true?

I’m wondering if there are any of the Richardes family on ancestry DNA, so I can see if there are any DNA links? The story could be hearsay, but it apparently has passed through the generations.

Of course there is no way of knowing, but it would be good to try and find out who Avarina‘s father was?

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United States of America / Re: Winifred Jones, family from Wales - where was she born?
« on: Monday 14 October 19 21:27 BST (UK)  »
I think that would be the one in Merthyr.

Thanks so much. I’ve not checked army records though I did find something about a pension from the army.

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United States of America / Re: Winifred Jones, family from Wales - where was she born?
« on: Monday 14 October 19 15:15 BST (UK)  »
Hi Shaun,

Where did you find that the maiden name was Powell? He might have been registered in Pontypridd.

Thanks,

Jacqueline

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United States of America / Winifred Jones, family from Wales - where was she born?
« on: Monday 14 October 19 11:50 BST (UK)  »
My 2nd Great Grandfather Griffith Jones was born in Merthyr Tydfil, Wales. My Great-Grandfather Taliesin Jones was born in Treharris, even though for years we thought he was born in America.

His sister however, on the 1911 census from Wales is stated as being born in America. Her name was Winifred Jones.

We have no idea who Taliesin and Winifred's mother was, so I have (only now knowing that Taliesin was born in Wales and not America) ordered a birth certificate for him.

However, questions that are left unanswered. We know they were in America, possibly around 1890 -1895, not sure of exact years. I would like to know:

When did they depart for the States?
Where did they live?
Where was Winifred born?
When did they return to Wales?

Hopefully I can get a birth certificate for Taliesin and find the answer to who his mother is (not Elizabeth Jones who Griffith married as a second wife). Apparently we have American relatives, but most of the older generations have died so we have no idea who they are?

Griffith Jones did return to America in the 1900's, but there was no address and we don't know who he was visiting.

Thanks in advance,

Jacqueline  :)

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Cardiganshire / Re: Avarina James burial site
« on: Saturday 31 March 18 21:55 BST (UK)  »
I hadI just looked at her birth certificate and she was born in 1854.

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Cardiganshire / Re: Avarina James burial site
« on: Saturday 31 March 18 21:53 BST (UK)  »
Oh wow, that’s very interesting. My cousin was told by her mother that Avarina was the result of a liaison with a wealthy landowner. The father is not noted on the birth certificate. My cousin has looked into this and found that the local gentry were the Richards family.

I’m not sure how I can actually find more information on this though.

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Cardiganshire / Re: Avarina James burial site
« on: Thursday 29 March 18 20:18 BST (UK)  »
I meant Anne. 😊

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Cardiganshire / Re: Avarina James burial site
« on: Thursday 29 March 18 20:17 BST (UK)  »
Hi Tanya,

That’s absolutely fine! I am on ancestry.com if you want to look on there. I have more info. I am also a descendant of Mary Ann, I am Edith’s granddaughter. Is Michael the son of a Tydfil by any chance?

Jacqueline 😀

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Cardiganshire / Re: Avarina James burial site
« on: Tuesday 06 February 18 09:16 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

With regards to her address, it just says Wainfawr, Vainor Lower. Her mother was Mary James and her parents were Avarina and John Janes.

Unfortunately I don’t have an address of Mary’s place of work but I have been told that she was a result of a liaison with a wealthy landowner.  My cousin has noted that the gentry in the area of Llanbardan Fawr at that time we’re a family called Richards, but we’ve no idea if there is a connection there or not.

Thanks,

Jacqueline

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