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Down / Re: Peter Trainer
« on: Thursday 24 January 19 12:56 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for the further information

Down / Re: Peter Trainer
« on: Monday 21 January 19 18:57 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for all the information.

We have checked census records for other names and the only Irish names living in the same household have married into the McLinden family. Other names are Scottish families that again they married into.

There was a brother James that we know of but we aren't sure whether he lived in Scotland or Ireland.

We also have christian names of Arthur, Dennis, Charles, Francis, Hugh, Cristina, Margaret, Katherine, Alexander, Joseph, and Agnes which seem to repeat themselves through at least 2 generations in Scotland but they could just as well be from the MacGuigan side.

Unfortunately the census records rarely include the area in Ireland. I only found the counties of Forkhill and Down from burial records.

I will follow your suggestions and see if I can locate any matches.

Down / Re: Peter Trainer
« on: Monday 21 January 19 08:50 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Oldohiohome that is all correct.

Down / Re: Peter Trainer
« on: Sunday 20 January 19 20:55 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Oldohlohome,

apologies for the delay in responding.

Irish ancestors recorded on death certificates as follows:-

GG Great Grandfather Peter Trainer - Farmer
GG Great Grandmother Ellen Campbell

G Great Grandmother Ann Trainer
G Great Grandfather Bernard McLinden - Farmer

Scottish records of Mclinden's after arrival in or around 1851 as follows:

Great Uncle Peter McLinden born abt 1826 married in Scotland Mary O’Donnell (Scottish)
Great Aunt Ellen McLinden born abt 1827 married in Scotland to John McInnis and Bartholomew Carroll (both Irish)
Great Aunt Anne McLinden born  abt 1840 married in Scotland to Arthur Rooney (Irish)
Great Grandmother Mary McLinden born abt 1840 (Down) married in Scotland to Owen MacGuigan (Forkhill)

G Great Grandmother Ann Trainer (McLinden) first appears on the 1871 Scottish Census and again on the 1881 Census and dies in Scotland 1881. She is recorded as 90 on the last census and then 65 on death but she was more likely to be 80 given the birth dates of her children and was recorded as 70 in 1871. 1801 therefore looks to be the most feasible.

G Great Grandfather Bernard McLinden is recorded as deceased in 1867 when Ellen McLinden marries and I assume therefore that this his widow went to live in Scotland after the 1861 census and before her daughter Ellen's second marriage.

There must be other children in between birth dates who may have remained in Ireland or emigrated elsewhere.

Thank you for the suggestions I will try searching. I really appreciate the information.

Ross & Cromarty / Re: Peter McLinden
« on: Saturday 19 January 19 13:03 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ev

Thank you so much. I looked at the census on Ancestry and couldnt see widowed but assumed that the death would be between 1876 and 1880.

Thank you very much.

Ross & Cromarty / Re: Peter McLinden
« on: Saturday 19 January 19 11:44 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Col C

Yes the information you logged is what I have found so far. I found Mary's death in Rothesay 1907 but cant find Peter after 1871.

Ross & Cromarty / Re: Peter McLinden
« on: Saturday 19 January 19 11:42 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Skoosh

Thank you I have tried all sorts, even asked Scotlands People if they had any suggestions as I found an error in a marriage record they had transcribed at Peter John Trandor instead of Peter McLinden.

I tried all deaths in the area from 1876 up to 1907 just using an age instead of a name but it would cost a fortune going into all the possibilities but thank you. Should I post separately in the Rothesay section as I believe this is may be where he died if he remained in Scotland?

Thank you again for your response.

Down / Re: Peter Trainer
« on: Saturday 19 January 19 10:52 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Sinann

They were Roman Catholic as far as I am aware.

Thank you for responding.

Ross & Cromarty / Peter McLinden
« on: Saturday 19 January 19 10:51 GMT (UK)  »
Hi I have a Peter McLinden on 1861 census, originally born in Ireland 1826 living in Rosemarkie, Ross and Cromarty. He married a Mary O'Donnell and had 3 children they then moved to Rothesay. I can find him in the 1871 Census and he is recorded on his last daughter Margaret's birth as being present in 1876 he then disappears from Scottish census records and I can find no death record under his name. His wife continues to be recorded on census records until she dies in 1907 when its noted she is his widow and he is recorded as a gardener deceased. She is not recorded as widowed on records up until 1901 and I must assume either her husband deserted her and moved overseas or he was residing elsewhere during census records. Interestingly on one record she is living on private means but I am not sure how as her father was a coal miner and Peter a labourer. I cant find him on any other cencus records in Scotland matching his data and cant find a death record under close matching name or age. There is another Peter McLinden same birth date but he could not have lived in 2 places at the same time and the parents of the other Peter are incorrect, he is also a stone mason and my relative was a labourer. Our Peter's mother was Ann Trainer and father Bernard McLinden Farmer. I tried phoenetic search with age on Scotlands People but cant find a death and it costs a fortune going into every possible death entry, I tried several possible matches in Rothesay but once certificates were opened they didnt tie up with his occupation or parents. Can anyone suggest an avenue to search? Many thanks

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