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Durham / Re: B.F. Johnson - Consett
« on: Thursday 14 March 24 12:51 GMT (UK)  »
To all who contributed, thank you

Robert F Johnson is definitely the man I was looking for.  The confusion was largely of his making - he gave the impression that he was in charge of a major hotel but in fact it was only a beerhouse.  His money came mostly from organising sporting events and gambling on them.  By the time of the 1871 Census he had left Consett and his beerhouse had moved location.  It was still in the same street and I believe it has subsequently morphed into the Mason's Arms public house

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Durham / Re: B.F. Johnson - Consett
« on: Wednesday 13 March 24 20:26 GMT (UK)  »
Alan Boyd

Thank you.  George Howard was a publican in Middle Street at the same time so that probably eliminates the Wheatsheaf as one of the possibles.  Our Mr Johnson rattled the cages of a few local innkeepers and that may well be why he left Consett

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Durham / Re: B.F. Johnson - Consett
« on: Wednesday 13 March 24 19:11 GMT (UK)  »
Jen B

Yes, I saw that too!  Strange profession!

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Durham / Re: B.F. Johnson - Consett
« on: Wednesday 13 March 24 18:41 GMT (UK)  »
Jen B

You might very well be right.  I have found no other mentions of him at all outside the 1860-1864 time period so I think his time in Consett was short which is odd because Middle Street was and still is the busiest street in Consett and contained most of the better hotels in the town.  So I cannot understand why he left so abruptly and just seems to have disappeared.  There are no press reports or obituaries on him and that is unusual for a prominent citizen so I don't think he died there.  You and Queenie have given me the only evidence of his location.  The biggest and best establishment in Consett was in Front Street but he was not there as the owners and licensees are all known in the five year period I quoted.

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Durham / Re: B.F. Johnson - Consett
« on: Wednesday 13 March 24 18:26 GMT (UK)  »
Queenof theWest and Jen B

Middle Street was one of the relatively few streets that were in Consett at that time and it became the main shopping and socialising street so that would have been my guess (but only a guess).  There were six pubs in that street but none of them were named Tattersalls Inn.  So after your comments I think it must have been one of them.  Mr Johnson was very keen on sport and gambling on it.  Tattersalls was the biggest betting and horse sales agency of the day in England.  I am now guessing that Tattersall's was no more than a nickname (although he did use it in his advertising).  However, The Edinburgh House, another pub in that street advertised itself as the Jubilee Bar so it is not without precedent locally.  Thanks for your contributions.


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Durham / Re: B.F. Johnson - Consett
« on: Wednesday 13 March 24 18:07 GMT (UK)  »
Milliepede

No other clues at all.  Everything I know about him was in the original question

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Durham / Re: B.F. Johnson - Consett
« on: Wednesday 13 March 24 15:43 GMT (UK)  »
I forgot to the mention that the initials BF are suspect as in one report it is RF and in another it is UF

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Durham / B.F. Johnson - Consett
« on: Wednesday 13 March 24 15:34 GMT (UK)  »
Can anyone please help with information on this man who was an innkeeper in Consett/Berry Edge at a mystery pub named Tattersalls Inn which was a fully licenced hotel not just a beerhouse.  He and the pub had several mentions in the press around 1860-1864 and he had a couple of mentions in Sporting Life as a promoter of events like horse racing and pigeon shooting but there is very little else on him in public or private life and he does not seem to appear on the 1861 Census so I have no idea of the address of the pub even though he lived on the premises.  I'm guessing that the pub changed its name at some point as few pubs in Consett ceased to exist around that time.  Many thanks in advance of any help.

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Durham / Re: John Stokoe, Tanfield Village
« on: Friday 08 March 24 01:36 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Jomot,

I have been looking in the wrong place.  I have been looking in the village of Tanfield but this is in the Chapelry of Tanfield and actually in the village of Burnopfield.  The two are quite close together and there were two known breweries in Burnopfield, one of which was tied to a pub in Bryan's Leap which is where he was dwelling at the time of his death.

You have given me a lot of circumstantial evidence and a good solid base to work from.  If I can only firmly link him to that pub and brewery, the rest will be easy.  I am also encouraged because the third name on the administration document is that of another local brewer whom he would certainly have known as a business contact and quite possibly as a friend.  Thanks again

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