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The Common Room / Re: Engaged or Good friends
« on: Friday 23 February 24 07:55 GMT (UK)  »
The name of the giver was Jessie Curtis not Smith.  Married as Jessie Curtis = Stanley Bungay. Plaitford School where she had worked presented her with a silver tea service.

There are other members of the Curtis family also listed as giving gifts, are they related?   Can only assume they were a couple accepted as such by family but probably not engaged.

Yes, sorry, you are correct, don't know why I put Smith particularly as it was their marriage that I was looking at in 1935. 
Curtis is one of the traditional names in the area, as is Smith, some surnames end up dominating whilst others die out quickly.
Of the marriages that I have looked at in 1935 in the area the median age for brides was around 25 to 26 years, by the 1960's it had dropped down to the early 20's and now is a lot older.

The Common Room / Re: Engaged or Good friends
« on: Wednesday 21 February 24 08:47 GMT (UK)  »
Thank-you for your suggestions.

I had wondered if there was a 'correct' way of behaving as a couple if an item or engaged or just friends in the situation as guests at a wedding.

In fact it has just occurred to me that they were not necessarily guests invited to the reception as I have seen lists of presents longer than number of guests, I was just assuming they were guests. So they could have been invited either together or singly or not invited but wish to give together.

 I was also interested in how long couples stayed as engaged - the rich and royalty may have had short engagements but the average age of the brides that I looked at in 1935 was 25 - so there was the possibility of long engagements, I just did not know.  If the parents expected the groom to have a certain wage level, or savings made, or bride's kitchen implements accumulated, then she was not on the shelf she was busy sorting out her future life....

As a random point from 'modern' weddings and not invited to the main wedding and reception but to the evening knees-up or similar, I was invited to a wedding but not my husband - when did that custom start?

The Common Room / Re: Arrow
« on: Tuesday 20 February 24 10:09 GMT (UK)  »
For anyone else looking - she is in quite a few trees on Ancestry but the public ones do not show a death.

Also that 1939 gives a different birth year of 1886 so she was fluid with her age.  What was her birth date from her birth certificate?

Added : Sorry, that one is not a waitress.  Confused.

The Common Room / Engaged or Good friends
« on: Tuesday 20 February 24 09:34 GMT (UK)  »
In 1930 in the local paper a list of wedding presents received, with giver's names, is recorded.  A picture is from Jessie Smith and Mr S Bungay.  Jessie and Stanley subsequently marry in 1935.

As they have given a present together would they be engaged, or can they just be 2 friends?  In 1930 they would be aged 19 and 23.

Neither are siblings to the bride or groom, and all other present givers listed are either married pairs, family groups, singles or probably employers.

I did try google search but could not get anywhere so your ideas would be appreciated.


England / Re: 1891 census
« on: Tuesday 06 February 24 13:31 GMT (UK)  »
If his army records say that he was not abroad from 1890, does that preclude that he would be on a destroyed Irish census?

England / Re: 1891 census
« on: Tuesday 06 February 24 09:11 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, I agree. I even went through pages and pages of some of the Barracks on Ancestry and FindMyPast just in case something was a horrible scribble but nothing likely.

World War One / Re: Abbreviations on disabilities WW1
« on: Tuesday 06 February 24 09:04 GMT (UK)  »

You are absolutely correct about that W - I have attached the word Winterslow from the form.

Also then, the N is an R.   Must be half-asleep this morning.

World War One / Abbreviations on disabilities WW1
« on: Tuesday 06 February 24 08:37 GMT (UK)  »
Could someone guess the attached or point me to a list of abbreviations for war wounds from WW1.

I have assumed G S would be gun shot, but the next 2 letters look like H N. Also that they were to the leg and chest.

If it helps, or doesn't, the disability was initially assessed as 50%, reduced to 40% then 30% after 2 years.


England / Re: 1891 census
« on: Monday 05 February 24 15:45 GMT (UK)  »
Edward and Fanny married on Monday, 30th March - sorry I do not know why I wrote 31st - for which he had obtained official leave.  His records state that he stayed in this country and did not travel abroad thereafter.  Census day was the following Sunday so I would guess that they would be back in barracks, or close to, by that date.

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