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Armagh / Re: Thomas Wilson / James Wilson relationship- Ballynary, Tartaraghan, Armagh
« on: Thursday 16 November 23 15:37 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
Thank you, great point.  My understanding is that when in the US, they were Methodist, at least my great grandfather who moved to Connecticut in the US. In Ireland I know that George and Frances were married at the Church of Milltown which I believe falls under the Church of Ireland.  Both would indicate then a potential origin in England, I would think.

Anyway, thanks so much for your help.  Good luck with your continued research!
Laura

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Armagh / Re: Thomas Wilson / James Wilson relationship- Ballynary, Tartaraghan, Armagh
« on: Tuesday 14 November 23 13:09 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you so much for this information.  Just curious do you have anything suggesting where the Wilson's originally came from, or which Wilson was first in Northern Ireland?  I suspect that they were Scottish.  When I was in Armagh, my guide was adamant that Wilsons were Scottish origin and had likely come to Armagh during the Plantation years.  I believe George's father's name was also George (1800 to 1877) but that is all I've been able to dig up.  The local guide also indicated that as recently as 30 to 40 years ago, Greenaways lived on Ballynarry Road and had a slight "Scottish accent"; Greenaway of course being Frances' family.

Laura

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Hi

I actually was thinking for a time that George Wilson's death was in 1889 (Jan 10th).  I see a death record for George Wilson in 1884 listed as a weaver, which of course makes sense, but I dismissed this one because in 1889 (he is listed as a laborer) the reporting party is a James Greenaway.  That said, I'm not convinced I have it correct as the 1884 makes more sense and it makes more sense for my James Wilson being sent to live with my great grandfather Thomas in the US.  You said you had seen Milltown records, so with those confirming 1884, I stand corrected.  If you need any information on the Wilsons that came to the US, let me know, I'm happy to provide anything.  Thank you, Laura. 

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Yes, I completely understand.  Unfortunately, my family was handed a few hardships this past year that tested our endurance and took me away from my research for a time. Luckily we survived it and I can now get back to it.

Again, thank you for your past assistance.

Laura

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Re:  reply #11, yes, I'm all set on this.  Have discovered that Mary was Isabella Gilpin's sister (Thomas Wilson's wife) and it was that Mary who married Richard McClelland and live in NJ.

Thanks,
Laura

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Hi, as you can see, I haven't been around/logged-in for a while. But I'm back at it.  I just returned from Ireland (Northern) and went to Ballynarry Road to "view" the Wilson home location.  The house is no longer standing but it was important to at least walk the road.  I met some locals who confirmed that Wilsons and Greenaways were from that area and live on the road.

The information you dug up on James is amazing.  It makes sense as to why he was sent over to America and then raised by his Uncle (my great grandfather). So it seems that Eliza Wilson, daughter of George and Frances (Greenaway) likely had a child outside of marriage and died from that childbirth shortly after.  And with both George and Frances' death within a few years, the remaining family sent James to his uncle.

You mentioned you have lots of Wison info, I"d love to hear/see what you have.  I'll send a separate message with my email address.  When I was in Ballynarry, I learned about a gentleman, William Wilson who ran the old Bannfoot Ferry up to age 88.  I wonder if he fits in some how to my Wilsons?

Thank you so much and I look forward to hearing from you.  Again, my apologies for the long delay.

Laura 

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Thank you for finding Arthur's marriage to Eliza, it likely eliminates him as a brother to Thomas since the father's name is different.  Thomas' father was George; Arthur's is William...at least I can perhaps remove this couple and their son as being my James.
Thanks again, Laura

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Hi
Thomas' brother James (born 1854), I have no idea whether he married or when he died.  The James I'm looking for who lived with Thomas in Manchester, CT did marry Mary Ellen Rogers on Sept 5, 1906 in Manchester, CT.  He died in Manchester, CT on Nov 2, 1963.  They had two children:  Marjorie and Eldon.  Thank you, Laura

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Armagh / Thomas Wilson / James Wilson relationship- Ballynary, Tartaraghan, Armagh
« on: Thursday 25 August 22 18:46 BST (UK)  »
Hi Everyone!  Looking for any possible assistance trying to figure out the relationship between my great grandfather, Thomas WILSON, born June 24, 1861 in Ballynary, Tartaraghan, Armagh, Ireland and another gentleman (James, more below) who may be either his son or nephew. Thomas’ parents were George Wilson (1829-Jan 10, 1889) and Francis Greenaway (Dec 17, 1827- Nov 2, 1884). I can only find the following siblings for Thomas: Anne, Jane, Mary, Elizabeth and James. Thomas moved to Manchester, CT to work at the Cheney Silk Mills in the late 1880s. He married Isabella Gilpin on October 6, 1891 in Astoria, Queens, NY. They had 3 daughters: Ethel (my grandmother), Amanda and Maude. However, at some point in the 1890s, a James Wilson (born June 28, 1884 in Portadown) comes to live with Thomas and Isabella. James also worked at the silk mills, he notes on his employment card that his father is Thomas and his sister is Ethel. Thomas’ employment card lists James as a relative but doesn’t define to what degree. When Thomas died in 1952, his obituary lists James as his son. Isabella’s obit in 1915 doesn’t even mention James. James’ grandson told me that he said that he was orphaned in Ireland and came to live with Thomas but he never discussed the nature of the relationship. I had hoped that finding Thomas’ parents and siblings in Armagh would have cleared this up but it’s another roadblock. I can only find one brother for Thomas, James, born Jan 17, 1854 but I have no further information on him, whether he married, had children, died and left a child orphaned. And I cannot find a birth through the civil registry for James that gives me anything definitive. There is a James born June 25th 1884 to an Arthur Wilson and Elizabeth Reid, but I can’t tie them to Thomas. If anyone has any information, I’d love to finally figure out the relationship. Was Thomas James’ father or uncle perhaps? Thanks so much. Laura.

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