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England / Francis H Warren
« on: Tuesday 02 February 16 20:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all,
Tricky one maybe but looking for some help.
My G Grandfather was one Francis H Warren, who disappeared and never came back shortly after my Grandfather was born in 1918. As far as my mum knows, her dad (my Grandfather) never saw him again. However, he did tell her once that he suspected he had a half brother living in Wales, near Aberystwyth.
Anyway, I was doing a random search for his name the other day and uncovered this fantastic photograph of him (see attached). Underneath this photo was the caption "Francis H. Warren (London artist) taken in 1921 with Miss Mona Vivian at the London Hippodrome
photo provided by Francis' grandson Alan."

Understandably this came as something of a surprise, as my mum had no idea other than a fleeting mention of this as a possibility from my Grandfather.

What I would like to know is if it's possible to trace this side of his family any more? I have done some cursory research and found he was living in Stratford on Avon in 1939 with a Florence I Warren and with a child/dependent (who can't be named) and also that he died in Stratford. Does anyone know how best to find the mothers maiden name and then perhaps a birth record for the 1939 child/dependent?

Any help much appreciated or any other information at all.
Fauves



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Herefordshire / Re: House Name
« on: Monday 19 October 15 06:10 BST (UK)  »
Hi again 1851 possible!?

William Acton 57 occ Maltster b Llanigon, Brecknockshire
Millina 65 Wife b Bosbury
Plus 4 Servants
Residing at Broad Street, Hay
Census ref HO107/2491/296/4
Still in Broad Street 1841
Census ref HO107/1370/ 10/9 / 11
In 1861 William has remarried a Mary aged 54 b Whipsnade, Bedfordshire residing at Yellow House, Broad Street
Census ref RG09/4225/6/5
Keyboard86

Hello again,
This is definitely him and he was certainly the owner of our house! I have found a good few advertisements for the property in the Hereford journal, and I believe the house was called "Priory Wood House"?! This seems to tie in well with our neighbouring "Priory Wood Cottage".. Really interesting to note also that the house was obviously falling out of favour as the back kitchen became an office room and the four bedrooms became three with the servants bedrooms upstairs just called "attic space"..

Better keep digging! Seems to be quite a lot on William Acton, Maltster or Wm. Acton, Hay on Wye.

Thanks guys.

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Herefordshire / Re: House Name
« on: Sunday 18 October 15 20:50 BST (UK)  »
If you look at old copies of Hereford Times and Hereford Journal (various online sites) you will find William Acton lived for over 20 years at Priory Wood late 1700s early 1800s. The property was passed onto his son also William a malster in Hay.
There are many descriptions of the property owned, which I suspect is your home, as it was advertised as being for rent.

Incredibly I was looking at this exact information the precise moment your reply was emailed to me. I think this could be it. Thanks very much.

Thanks everyone for all the help. I really owe you guys one for this, just hope I might have nailed it finally!

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Herefordshire / Re: House Name
« on: Saturday 17 October 15 18:39 BST (UK)  »
Is Colonel Powell one of your Powells

http://herefordshirepast.co.uk/news-from-the-past/clifford-news-from-the-past/


Mike

Good stuff, thank you. Colonel Powell is probably the best guess the previous owners had for the inhabitants prior to 1880s. I don't think they were related to the post 1891 census Powells but they were the most prominent Priory Wood family in the late 18th-mid 19th century. I think it was Colonel Powell's mother, Louisa/Louise Powell (Du Buisson) who was presumed by the previous owners to have lived in the house, but I can't find any solid evidence and Colonel Powell lived in Hardwicke House/Court I think which is about a mile away. Maybe Louisa lived here alone though until her death in 1824?

Good info on them here. http://welshjournals.llgc.org.uk/browse/viewpage/llgc-id:1191402/llgc-id:1194563/llgc-id:1194622/getText

Maybe it would be good to find a link between the Powells and the Actons as perhaps the land changed hands between them sometime between 1824 and 1845? Interestingly the Methodist Chapel down the road (literally almost our neighbour) was built (or rebuilt?) in 1827, which may have coincided with the Powells selling the house/land to the Actons?

Sorry for making this even more complicated.. Maybe I should get all the facts down clearly!

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Herefordshire / Re: House Name
« on: Saturday 17 October 15 11:37 BST (UK)  »
http://www.melocki.org.uk/diocese/1712_Philip_Bisse.xls

An Ed. Acton turns up here and not too far away in Clun, shropshire. Dates don't add up though unless land can be owned after death?

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Herefordshire / Re: House Name
« on: Saturday 17 October 15 11:26 BST (UK)  »
I really think the key might be "Edmund Acton" the landowner and possibly property owner in the 1840s although as the name doesn't turn up anywhere I wonder if it might be a pseudonym.

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Herefordshire / Re: House Name
« on: Saturday 17 October 15 11:25 BST (UK)  »
Do you have details of the '51 and '61 Census?

RG09  1829  53  2
HO107  1980  414  10

Richard Powell is listed on page 94 of the 1856 PO Directory of Herefordshire (Historical Directories online). But residence is not named.

Hello
I have looked through them really thoroughly but got nowhere as our neighboring properties are often named but ours either renames unnamed (and therefore unidentifiable) or unoccupied.

It's just really weird because the house is very different to the others around us, mostly older and the original structure is bigger, but while the others are often named ours is a total and utter blank from 1841-1891.

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Herefordshire / Re: House Name
« on: Saturday 17 October 15 11:21 BST (UK)  »
Hi again see what you mean pre 1891 Full census ref 1891 RG12/4580/112/8 with Elizabeth Powell, 1901 William Williams RG13/5178/74/9
Priory Wood, Clifford
Keyboard86

I think the Powells moved from the South East up to our house sometime between 1885 and 1891. Interestingly there were Williams's living next door frequently throughout the 19th century, including I assume  the 1901 William Williams ancestors. Thomas Jones owned Priory Wood Cottage (our neighbour) on the tithe maps and he also occupied the cottage at times throughout the 19th century.

Interestingly there is a Calvinistic chapel down the road that was built in the early 19th century. This was presumably very closely linked to the house if it had religious connections. Perhaps the owner of our house in the early 19th century was some kind of a overseer, a position made redundant by the building of the chapel? It might explain why the house suddenly became unoccupied and unrecorded, losing its original name in the process (forgotten?). It's quite a difficult place to heat so perhaps locals didn't want to live in it after the overseer/rector/etc. had left? Until the relatively affluent Londoners (Powells) moved in?

Thanks very much for the help. If it's any use at all our neighbouring property to the west is Priory Wood Cottage (William Williams), to the East is Oak Cottage (may have had a different name?), the South is Porking Cottage/Barn.

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Herefordshire / Re: House Name
« on: Saturday 17 October 15 11:08 BST (UK)  »
Have you tried contacting Land Registry that covers the area where the house is?
Carol

Hello
I haven't done that but when we purchased the house we were given all the available deeds and documents I think which only seemed to go back as far as the 60s/70s. The previous owner apparently lost the original title deeds, which I assume would've been very helpful! Do you know if perhaps land registry would have a copy?
Thanks

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