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Worcestershire / Re: Hunt family of Inkberrow
« on: Monday 23 October 17 08:42 BST (UK)  »
Think I may have found an answer. Noakes got his Charles's mixed up. After the restoration in 1660 the Order of Knights of the Royal Oak was proposed. This was to be county based and lists of suitable recipients who had remained loyal to Charles II in his exile were drawn up for each county. The proposal never went ahead because it was felt it was contrary to a hoped for spirit of reconciliation.

Maybe these men had declined to be placed on the list, they certainly weren't included on the proposed list or possibly as prominent men from the area they had opposed the whole idea?

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Worcestershire / Re: Hunt family of Inkberrow
« on: Monday 23 October 17 00:02 BST (UK)  »
Yes I rather thought that. Just thought it odd that 6 people from one fairly obscure village would have been offered a knighthood. Would it have been something along the lines of "fight for the Royalist cause and you will become a knight"?

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Worcestershire / Hunt family of Inkberrow
« on: Sunday 22 October 17 14:49 BST (UK)  »
My 7xGreat Grandfather Richard Hunt (1615-1685) was born and died in Inkberrow, he was married to Joanne Ransley and his parents I believe were Rychard Hunt and Alyce/Alyse Farr who were married in Kington (near Inkberrow) in 1598.

I believe there were quite a lot of Hunts in Inkberrow and I was wondering whether anyone had any knowledge of them. Noakes guide to Worcestershire (1867) lists a Mr R. Hunt as a principal landowner although my own branch had long since moved away.

Enigmatically Noakes states that George Lench, Thomas Hunt, Arthur Bagshawe, Edmund Bearcroft, John Fincher, and Thomas Hames, or Haines, all esquires of Inkberrow, were among the Worcestershire gentlemen whom Charles I fined for not accepting the order of knighthood


On the face of it that sounds like they had declined a knighthood. It seems odd that so many should have been offered to Inkberrow men and bizarre that they would all have declined. Am I missing something here. Anyone got any ideas?  Thanks in advance for any information.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Mistakes on marriage certificate? Or lies?
« on: Monday 02 October 17 16:52 BST (UK)  »
My great grandmother appeared on a family tree prepared by a distant cousin as Louisa Knapman, which was odd because my mother was convinced he name was Satchell. When we came to investigate the marriage cert. definitely said Knapman and one of the witnesses was John Satchell. A Louisa Satchell had been born in Newport (where we knew she came from) 17 years before and appeared in the censuses along with her brother John but never married, died or appeared in later censuses. Likewise no sign of any Louisa Knapman except for this marriage. Assumption was that the marriage, in London, was without parental Knowledge. I've been told on here that despite the incorrect info. so long as banns were read, which they were, and no one objected the marriage was perfectly legal.

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Warwickshire / Re: On finding the real EDWARD ASHWIN!
« on: Saturday 08 July 17 14:56 BST (UK)  »
For any Ashwin descendent with a few million to spare:

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-60398540.html

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It's the coincidences that surprise me. Back in the 1950's my uncle and his family moved from Birmingham to a small village in Worcestershire, it's only in recent times we've discovered a whole branch of the family came from a village 2 or 3 miles away. I moved from London to Bicester back in the '80's; just recently discovered ancestors in a number of the surrounding villages.

Instow is a small holiday village in North Devon, we went there as children, my grandmother and great aunt knew it because my great uncle came from close by. My nephew moved there a few years ago when his work took him to North Devon. What no one realised was that my great grandfather was born within walking distance. And there's more...

Do we make unconscious decisions based on our ancestral make up?  ???

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I've been doing a review of my Ashwin ancestors and I have noticed a connection. I have been wondering whether some of the grandsons of my 2xGreat Grandfather James Ashwin (1798-1867) were in business together.

His eldest daughter Susannah (b. 1839) married Robert Willard a printer. According to the 1911 census their sons were:
Edward William Willard, Employer, Manufacturer of motor fittings, based in Birmingham;
Robert C. Willard, Employer, Commercial traveller, coach & motor fittings and lamps, B'ham;
Arthur Ashwin Willard, worker, Commercial traveller, motor trade, Bristol.

Also the son of James's second son Edward was:
Ernest Edward Ashwin, Commercial traveller, motor trade, Sale, Cheshire.

Was this just coincidence or had they set up some sort of motor part manufacturer between them?

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Warwickshire Lookup Requests / Re: Lily Ashwin 1877-?1970
« on: Tuesday 25 April 17 00:02 BST (UK)  »
Hi Julie, thanks for the response. I have discovered more about Percy, you probably already have it but he married Katherine Robins in 1907 in NSW and later lived in Victoria, dying in Cheltenham (used to live not far from the original one myself) as late as 1965.

His younger brother Frank Harold Bowen Ashwin married the improbably named Irene Stewart Beaney Butters in Victoria in 1906, moved to New Zealand and joined the army in Auckland in 1914. He must have returned to the UK and divorced by 1925 since both he and Irene remarried that year in the UK. He appears to have died in Camberwell in 1930, strangely where his brother in law Charles Clark came from.

Family legend had it that my Great Grandmother Elizabeth Ashwin was ostracized by the family for marrying beneath her, which I don't think was strictly true but nevertheless we never knew much about the Ashwin side. I have details of the Ashwins back to the 16C (albeit a bit sketchy in places) if you are interested. When I told my mother all this she immediately said I should write to the Australian connections (well she is 97 and emails have rather passed her by) so I would be interested in contacting, will send a private message.
Regards,
Rod

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Warwickshire Lookup Requests / Re: Lily Ashwin 1877-?1970
« on: Monday 24 April 17 12:50 BST (UK)  »
I never cease to be surprised by the details I am finding of my Ashwin ancestors. Lily Ashwin's father was my great grandmother's brother John Ashwin. John was a seemingly successful jeweller and jewellery manufacturer in Birmingham but something significant must have happened around 1900. He left for Australia in Jan. 1900 before his daughters Lily and Mary Alice who left in June of that year. He must have left his wife Mary Ann (or Mariann), she died in Birmingham in 1927. Also his son Percy, then aged 24, joined the army in 1900. Does anyone know what was so significant about 1900?

The coincidences that occur in genealogy research amaze me. The lives of 3 generations in Australia reflect very much the lives of my late partner, her mother and grandmother in Australia, albeit a generation on.

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