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Australia / Re: Mary BELL/ Mary HAND
« on: Tuesday 04 May 21 09:35 BST (UK)  »
Looking through the Trove newspaper accounts of the trial:

Thomas Liddington senior and Mary Hand had lived together, unmarried, for 13 years, so since about 1865

Thomas junior was their eldest child, and her illegitimate son'

The couple had 5 children (some accounts say 3 children then 5 children in the same article, there were 3 in one room and 2 in another which may be the confusion)

Thomas junior was reported as 10 years old, but probably older to fit in with the other births as the oldest child (birth years of others as below)

1867 George
1871 Mary
1873 William
1875 Joseph

The most likely scenario, given these details, is that 'Mary Bell' was Mary Hand's alias; the couple were well know to locals and no other Mary is mentioned

Note that Thomas senior's convict indent shows that he was married a couple of years before being transported, and this may have been a factor in the couple not marrying. Also he was Protestant and she Catholic.


My experience is that in library edition you can fully access public trees, and many records, but not create your own tree.

In an Ancestry free account, you can create your own tree, but not fully access public trees, you get a preview only, and records are generally not available.


Boyd Robert Vanderpool was in the 138th Replacement Battalion US Army Air Corps in WW2


From Minnesota Department of Health; St Paul, Minnesota, USA; Minnesota, Death Index, 1908-2017 on Ancestry

Sybil Vanderpool (Bunt)
Widowed, died 26/8/2011, aged 92y, cremated
Born 12 May 1919, Chinchilla, Australia, F: James Henry BUNT, M: Ena Sara (ALFORD)
Residence - Rochester, Olmsted, Minnesota, United States
Occupation - Homemaker
Education - Bachelors Degree
Certificate Number - 2011-MN-617312


Australia / Re: Thomas Draper
« on: Monday 03 May 21 19:57 BST (UK)  »
...I have identified a Jemima Agnes DRAPER aged 12 arriving in Hobart on the Brig "Sarah" 14th Dec 1832 with her father Matthew Draper, and siblings James, Jeremiah and Eliza. This age 12 matches with Jemima's calculated birth year from her marriage record. Matthew's spouse is just listed as "Wife" on the shipping manifest. Subsequently we have identified the spouse of Matthew Draper as Margaret GOULDING.

Hi - I believe that the arrival record has been wrongly transcribed and that 'James' is actually Nano, written as 'Nanno'.
(Add - though I can also see a tree has this inscription attached to her “Sacred to the memory of Hannora Draper Daughter of Matthew and Margaret Draper Died December 18th 1846 (sic) Aged 19 years.”)

Nano Draper, daughter of Mathew Draper, cooper, died in 1840 aged 19y


Add - Birth of William in Hobart 1834

Very interesting case! I couldn't see anything on Trove, but I wonder if there are any photos or illustrations that may include the police escorts, assuming you know what Chapman looked like?


Australia / Re: Mary BELL/ Mary HAND
« on: Monday 03 May 21 05:16 BST (UK)  »
Here Joseph Liddington (son?) has the aliases Hand and Falk


Australia / Re: Mary BELL/ Mary HAND
« on: Monday 03 May 21 04:38 BST (UK)  »

Mary HAND, admitted to asylum in 1878 from Hobart Gaol.  Died June 1905 at New Norfolk  Hospital.

Likely you already have the following re Thomas Liddington Senior and Mary Hand.
The Mercury 9 May 1878, Police Court  Launceston Examiner 16 May 1878
At the Supreme Court ... Mary Hand, charged with wounding with intent to murder ... was acquitted on the ground of insanity ... detained in gaol during her Majesty's pleasure.


Mary Hand, aged 50, free to colony on the Moolton$init=CON42-1-1P99


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