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Cumberland Lookup Requests / Re: Greystoke marriage 1796 - Pilley and Grave
« on: Sunday 16 July 23 12:49 BST (UK)  »
Worksop is the area that we all seem linked to. The John/Harriet may be related to an earlier generation. Unfortunately John and Elizabeth crop up regularly. I think I have separated two John/Elizabeth couples (reverse engineering from deaths and 'which part of town') but either could potentially be the ones I'm trying to pin down - although I have  a preferred pair. Also unfortunately not all the registers exist...

I've got no guaranteed information about the travelling tinker bit, just a family story although he was certainly a tinner and his son William (my Gt times 3 Gfr) was a tinner and brazier.

John's supposed to have married an Elizabeth Grey/Grave and supposedly in Greystoke. The 'Grey' may be a mix up with the name Grave and Greystoke. I've pulled Ancestry, Findmypast and Familysearch around in all possible ways with no further detail about th 1796 date.

 Nick   

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Cumberland Lookup Requests / Re: Greystoke marriage 1796 - Pilley and Grave
« on: Sunday 16 July 23 12:03 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the warning. Still, any addition would be a help. Nick

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Cumberland Lookup Requests / Greystoke marriage 1796 - Pilley and Grave
« on: Sunday 16 July 23 10:30 BST (UK)  »
Hi, trying to confirm details about John Pilley and Elizabeth Grave who were married at Greystoke 26th June 1796. So far so good but it would be really helpful if there was any details about John being from elsewhere. Even 'of this parish' as in later register entries would help.

It's the only likely match to my Gt Gt etc etc grandfather who should really be from Worksop but was known to be a tinker and may well have made his way there. Relying on family 'legend' doesn't really help!

Theres also a Mary Pilley who married William Teasdale in 1799 there so it's probable they were related but how and why I don't know. Much searching doesn't give Pilley as a local name at all  but there is an Elizabeth Grave born in Penrith in 1774 who may be the one.

Ever hopeful, thanks Nick Pilley

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Bedfordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Gurney in Clophill
« on: Monday 30 November 15 16:15 GMT (UK)  »
Gosh I had forgotten about that David! Hadn't realised it was so long ago that I was going round that side of the family.  Many thanks.

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Bedfordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Gurney in Clophill
« on: Monday 30 November 15 15:59 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you both for your help. That certainly stops the Clophill one. I'll follow up those alternatives. I guess I'm relying a lot on the 'Bedfordshire' entry.  Maybe I can find out more of the history of the 89th foot - it certainly seems a long way to go to the IoW to enlist.

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Bedfordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Gurney in Clophill
« on: Monday 30 November 15 14:32 GMT (UK)  »
Being in debtor's prison that young seems unlikely - although the baptism may not have been as a baby.  Shame there isn't an age - and that does assume that it would be for debt and not for another offence with nowhere else to be put. Unlikely I know.

Yes on the IOW,  discharged aged 42. If there was very little at home then I guess the army was a good option The 89th Foot were at various stages in Ireland - and also in Devonport in 1831. He married Hannah there in 1833 - Thurza was born in Ireland in 1834.  I recall it wasn't unusual for soldier's wives to go with them.

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Bedfordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Gurney in Clophill
« on: Monday 30 November 15 14:05 GMT (UK)  »
And also that points towards the Gurney as being likely in the baptism entry

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Bedfordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Gurney in Clophill
« on: Monday 30 November 15 14:02 GMT (UK)  »
That's interesting.  And as a labourer - which he appears to have been later in life. I'm guessing as he was in Exeter and then down to Plymouth that he may have been involved with the G.W.R. as a railway navvy.

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Bedfordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Gurney in Clophill
« on: Monday 30 November 15 13:40 GMT (UK)  »
Death reported by daughter Thurza/Thursa/Thirza but I guess the same applies. And it was January 1860 so that might also confuse.

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