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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: I need advice on how to recruit English people to Y-DNA test
« on: Sunday 25 June 17 15:27 BST (UK)  »
OK thank you. I Googled it and found the board for Christopher surname and made a post there. It is the same board I had posted on before, but back then I was not looking for info from overseas.

Let us see if I get any hits.

Dave

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: I need advice on how to recruit English people to Y-DNA test
« on: Sunday 25 June 17 14:34 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for your reply. We are all on the R-U152 Project: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b-u152.  The Co-Administrator for the DF 90 branch is Dr. Andre Viau. He is a distant cousin of mine and his haplotype is a DYS 393 = 13 and is listed in this group
U152> L2> Z41150> DF90,FGC29428. et al.> FGC14641> ~22237861> FGC29470

The two Fry's are listed in this group:
U152> L2> Z41150> DF90,FGC29428. et al.> FGC14641> ~22237861> FGC29470> FGC59711 et al

The Christopher's are listed in this group:
U152> L2> Z41150> DF90,FGC29428. et al.> FGC14641> ~22237861> FGC29470> FGC59711 et al.> FGC59702 et al

I work with Andre almost every day on this.  He has me and James Fry trying to find our MRCA but
James Fry dead ends in Ireland like I dead end in England. We have found a Fry in Ireland who seems to be related but has not been tested and says he will this fall. This particular branch of Fry's have hints their ancestors immigrated to Ireland from Somerset County England where our Australian Fry can trace his ancestor's origins. (It was Andre who was able to use all our Autosomal DNA and verify the 3 Abbeville men were brothers.)

I can find some Christopher's in the 1600's and 1700's in the southern counties on Family Search, but there do not seem to be trees connected to any records I find.

The main problem in paper records is almost everyone back in the day was named William or John and different branches of the same surname all use them. 

There is a Christopher group at Ancestry.com and I have posted there.  My question is do people in the British Isles see what I post there?  Ancestry has different extensions for different countries. One can not search information in England or Australia unless they purchase the International Subscription which I have, but like I say, paper records are useless so far.  That is why I decided to recruit Y testing as a way to find more.

David M Christopher

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / I need advice on how to recruit English people to Y-DNA test
« on: Sunday 25 June 17 13:47 BST (UK)  »
Hello.  My name is David M Christopher and I live in Virginia, USA. I am sure my ancestors came from southern England.  Searching for my last known Ancestor, Nicholas Christopher b. 1683 has not resulted in any finds.

I have Y tested at FTDNA in Dec 2015. At that time I matched a Surname "Fry" and my 2nd cousin. Over the past year and a half, I built my tree on Ancestry.com and managed to recruit 7 other Christopher's who are a match to me. 3 of the 7 dead ended at their 2nd Great Grandfathers between 1814 and 1830 in Abbeville, South Carolina. We have been able to use Autosomal DNA to determine that those three were brothers and the sons of a David Christopher b. 1790 the son of Ambrose Christopher Sr. b 1754 the son of William b abt 1712 the son of Nicholas b 1683.

We have 2 living Fry's living in America who are matches and 1 Fry in Australia who is a match.  We are all R-FGC29470 Haplotype.  The 2 Fry's in America find records that their ancestors came here from Dublin and the Australian man traces his ancestors to Somerset County England. The distinguishing Marker in this haplotype is DYS 393 that has a value of 10.

At a lab in Germany, www.yseq.net, it is possible to test for this one marker for about $10 plus shipping. 

Does anyone have an idea of where I could post or how to find living Christopher or Fry men to have this one marker tested who live in the British Isles?   

Thank You

David M Christopher

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Resource Christopher
« on: Sunday 30 October 16 16:03 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you BumbleB.  I am making a list of items I want to research when I go the the closest LDS Family History Center which is about 40 miles from where I live.  This is definitely going on that list.
Dave

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Resource Christopher
« on: Sunday 30 October 16 15:44 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry for the confusion of my real tree, BumbleB.  When I first started genealogy last December, you can see I ran into a brick wall with my 2nd GG grandfather George Ambus.  When I started my campaign to get other Christopher's YDNA tested, once I received a match, I started building the YDNAExperiment tree.  As more and more of us started matching over the months, I was sure that I am a Descendant of Nicholas and I stuck the brick wall in my real tree with the two Unknowns up to Nicholas.  That is where I left that tree until I can prove the unknowns.  In the meantime, I hunt for Nicholas's father.
Dave

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Resource Christopher
« on: Sunday 30 October 16 15:11 GMT (UK)  »
Frederick R Christopher is my father born in 1923 not 1823.  Probably a typo.  I am using that Will PDF right now to get the Williams and their wives into my tree along with this tree as a guide which seems to have all the references included:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/16468671/family?cfpid=330023465024

Slow going and confusing.  I should quit for the day before I make a mistake, but it is finally fun to be getting someplace.

At the end of the day though, there still is no proof that James Howard Christopher is the father my 5th grandfather Nicholas.  It is like my cousin Andre said, "Someone did a ton of good research and then someone else just stuck James Howard in their tree and every one else copied it.  Maybe I will find some proof.

Dave

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Resource Christopher
« on: Sunday 30 October 16 13:36 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks, I will check that out.  I have been at this for about 5 hours now. Reviewing countless trees so I can get as many first names in my head as possible and who may have married whom and has which children.  Then I started a search on a William Christopher 1569 to 1624 who is supposed to be James Howard's Great Grandfather.  The first thing on the list was a story which turns out to be a list of Christopher Wills.  Going to sponsoring profile and then Googling William listed on bottom, I found an Index to Kent Wills.  Eventually I kept clicking through the links and found the pdf of the Wills.  http://vulpeculox.net/history/wkw2016/pdf/XCDEF.PDF The Christopher's are on pages pages 132 - 171.  I am pretty sure this group stops around where my tree begins With the series of Williams.  I am going to have to study it after I rest up and clear my mind. 

Tell me what you think about this.

Dave

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Resource Christopher
« on: Saturday 29 October 16 21:29 BST (UK)  »
It is this living in different countries stuff of Ancestry.  Email me at (*) and I will use your email
Address to invite you to that tree. I know that works because a cousin in Australia has access to it as I have his.
Dave
Oh, when you get access to it, everyone above my 5th GGf is experimental and subject to deleation, if I can not find sources to prove them. 

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Resource Christopher
« on: Saturday 29 October 16 18:40 BST (UK)  »
@ polarbear - thank you for the reply. I will check out the link you provided to Family search. And Check my local library for what services they offer. Especially for the Find My Past.  I went ahead and subscribed to Ancestry International, and done som research.  I have to get used to Brittish records now. Thank you.

@ BumbleB thank you for replying too. The link to a tree I provided is not my tree, rather it was an example of what most all trees look like.  As I said none have sources, links to official records, and when they do have one it usually turns out to be for a different person.
As I said above, I went ahead and purchased the International edition and have started doing my research. I Found several trees that sayJames Howard Christopher (JHC) had 4 brothers John 1645, Richard 1645, John 1653, and Thomas 1659. I find nothing for John 1645,  Richard 1645 has 10 sour e trees one skips his father and says his father is who really is his grandfather. 3 say his father is James and the other 6 say his father is John. They all have the correct mother except the first one. None of those trees go to a living male descendant but they get into 1900's and continue with daughters. But it is possible that the sons had prodigy once I research them.
The 1653 John has a tree that does go to a living male and I sent the owner a message. I have found nothing on the 1659 Thomas.  I got tired and quit after that.
I do not know if you can see my tree, but my username on Ancestry is chrstvd and the tree I am working is YDNAExperiment, if you can do a member search and find it.  Then you can see that I do my own research and ha e sources to back it up.

Thank you David

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