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Armagh / Re: Pickering of Armagh
« on: Thursday 25 January 24 22:04 GMT (UK)  »
RichardinMichigan - A long time spent pursuing the inlaws ancestry and now I have gone back to my own - and this elusive DNA match to Farmhill. Ancestry has known shown by connection by DNA to Bullick on my mother's side.  They were purely North Antrim people for over 200 years so we are mystified. Bullick was from Fintona, to the south west of Lough Neagh, McCunn from just south of the Magilligan point on the map of NI.  The only possible connection we see is McKinley - Mum's great grandmother was Catherine McKinley of a place called Newtowncrommelin near Ballymena.  The McCunn family was founded upon the marriage of a Matty or Martha McKinley and McCunn, earliest ref I find is to he in(famous) Judge John McCunns baptism in Tamlaghtfinlagan Church, but this is some forty or fifty miles from the seat of my McKinley side at Newtowncrommelin or even at Dervock, the homestead of the ancestors of President McKinley who by family lore is supposed to be our relative.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Joseph Stewart McFadden
« on: Monday 11 December 23 22:25 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Aghadowey.  So I have established that these McFadden ladies were Mary, mother to James whose father was Colvin, and her sister Jane who was Joseph's mother.  Census states they were born in Co Antrim, so that matches the family in Stranocum in 1901.  My ancestor was Andrew McFadden probably Andrew who died at Dervock in 1882.  His son John married Rose Ann Wilson, and daughter Jane married William Mebin in the 1850s, both married Loughguile Parish.  John's daughter Mary Ann was my great great grandmother and married William Alexander aka McCaldridge.  Nancy Jane McFadden of Drumtullagh had a daughter Jane with William McAldridge who was aka as William Alexander named as father some years before he and Mary Ann McFadden married, in 1874, but there is some doubt if the registrar got the surname wrong and the father was William McCambridge whom she later married.  We have good DNA matching with this Jane's descendants, could be just from her if she Nancy Jane and Mary Ann were cousins of a degree, or from both if my ancestor William was this Jane's father.  So with so many Jane McFaddens in a small geographical area I am wondering if the McFaddens who crossed counties in the early 1900s are related to me too. Mary Ann also had a sister Eliza, but it is highly possible that not all her siblings were registered, and it is possible that John McFadden and his sister Jane Meban had siblings too who remain unknown to us.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Joseph Stewart McFadden
« on: Thursday 07 December 23 13:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, I realise this is an extension of a very old post (2009) but I have information relevant.  I am descended from McFadden of North Antrim - a John McFadden who married Rose Ann Wilson in the 1850s in Loughguile Parish Church.   I got a DNA match yesterday which MAY connect me to North Antrim Stewarts around Dervock/Stranocum - until yesterday a name not associated with my research, and maybe still not relevant.  Searching census 1901 for James Stewart, whose daughter Anna born circa 1870 may be a joint ancestor with my match I found a bachelor James Stewart living in Stranocum village in 1901 with an assortment of hitherto unknown McFaddens, including Joseph McFadden aged 11, son of unmarried Jane, who was daughter to unmarried Mary Elizabeth - these ladies had children out of wedlock, sometimes naming the father on birth records and lived with James Stewart the oldest one's bachelor uncle.  Elsewhere on a James' birth 1877 we find Mary Elizabeth to be the village shop keeper.  So... by 1904 James the uncle is deceased, and by 1911 census no trace of anyone of the family save for Joseph McFadden who had Reid in his birth registration, who now is Joseph Stewart McFadden, born Co Antrim, grandson to Isaac Stewart and living at Bovagh!   This may help the person who originally researched Joseph and in turn if anyone can find the link between the Stewarts and McFaddens of Stranocum I would be extremely grateful.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Charles Scott, Ballynian/Ballylame Garvagh
« on: Friday 27 October 23 22:50 BST (UK)  »
Aghadowey - my sincere thanks, you always come up with the goods.   I had toyed with the idea that she may have been buried with her parents, but then thought that she was perhaps in Main St Garvagh grave and not recorded.  I know my maternal side has this problem in Bushvale, where I was told that in past times the ladies were not always recorded as the menfolk owned the graves!   This info will be gratefully received by Martha's G Grand-daughter in NZ, especially as there is so much of history of Martha's family included, and this had been our next planned endeavour. Much appreciated.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Charles Scott, Ballynian/Ballylame Garvagh
« on: Friday 27 October 23 20:11 BST (UK)  »
Several years have passed with my Scotts on hold.  Now a couple of relatives of Charles's have arrived on the scene hoping for some information.   Charles Scott born 1868 at Ballynian between Garvagh and Swatragh married twice  - firstly to a relative (1895), Martha Jane McCullough (various surname spellings are available) with whom he had a large family, and secondly to Elizabeth Smyth, with whom he had a little son who died aged three.  I have amassed quite a lot of info re Charles - though his parents Nancy Kennedy and Charles Scott were married a good few years before registrations commenced therefore we only have records of children born after 1860.  Will be interested if anyone can supply any records for older children born at Ballynian.  But for now, the question that mystifies us all - why is there no death registration for Martha Jane Scott who died between 1904 and 1909 at Ballylame, Garvagh, their newer farm and no grave?  Charles her son, and her husband Charles are both buried in Main Street Garvagh, I recently visited the grave, but the Graveyard Convener there has no reason to believe that there is anyone else in that grave - so that begs the question where is Martha Jane and where is Elizabeth's infant son James?  As Martha came from closer to Swatragh I wonder if it might be there - but McCullough is so common a surname in the south of the county I have no idea where to start looking - Swatragh perhaps would be a start.  But that doesn't explain where the little one was laid to rest in 1912.  Any ideas welcome.

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Family History Beginners Board / Black Row, Keely, Aghadowey
« on: Monday 16 January 23 17:21 GMT (UK)  »
As a teenager I lived in 41 Moneybrannon Road, Aghadowey, Coleraine, NI.  Our house was one of two remaining of the Black Row as it was known, and a few wallsteads surrounding indicate that there were probably at least a couple more.  There was a strange hollow ring when you stepped on the concrete yard and someone suggested once we had a cellar - but that would have been only found in grand houses and this was a two up two down.  There was a brick feature arch around a window and we wondered if it was a carriage house, as a former resident had a great ghost story about a phantom horse that nuzzled the door beside it at midnight.  A relative also had an ancestor named Magee/McGee who was on census as in the house next to the old lady with the ghost story - I wonder if census collectors in 1901 and 1911 listed the houses in order of visitation, or of location.  If anyone who knows the history of these dwellings can supply info on the residents, etc we'd be most grateful.  In the seventies this was the property of landlord Adam Black, and we believe his farm at Keely House may have been in the possession of the Orr Family who connected also to Lizard Manor in the late 1800s.

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Armagh / Re: Pickering of Armagh
« on: Tuesday 29 November 22 17:20 GMT (UK)  »
Richard - interesting, It is to this  current John's sister that I have my match.  They tell me my Grandfather may have driven the carriage when John 1902 was attending school, but that wouldn't give me a DNA match, and Grandfather was deceased by then!

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Armagh / Re: Pickering of Armagh
« on: Monday 14 November 22 21:38 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Aghadowey - we have these records already.  George McNeill appears to have been an orphaned teenager who moved in with Maria Marshall, probably by then a widowed lady farmer together with her nephew, Adams known as being associated with the Wanlock family.  George was witness to Maria's niece's wedding to James McLaughlin - bride was my G Grandmother Mary Jane and there is oral evidence that Mary Jane's family were closely linked to the McNeills whilst George was at war.  It is the older generation pre-registration that interests me - if this was an Armagh family of Pickering how did they come to settle in Coleraine rural area - were they at Macosquin, or was perhaps Mary working at Bushtown?  Who was Mr Marshall - had he a role in bringing the whole family from Armagh or perhaps just Maria - and was she related to the Maria Pickering who married Bullick, and her predecessor Maria Pickering of Newforge House - a social class above our known Pickerings.  So many questions and so little material available.

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Armagh / Pickering of Armagh
« on: Sunday 13 November 22 22:49 GMT (UK)  »
My earliest tracing of paternal ancestry takes me to Mary Pickering who married  Thomas Wanlock at Macosquin, Coleraine in 1858. Pickerings have proved very elusive to trace - not a Coleraine name. Thomas died at Farmhill, the home of the Bullick family in the early 1900s rather than at his home on Long Commons, Coleraine, where he lived with his wife - these were my g g grandparents.  This perplexed me as I researched.   Then I found a sister of  Mary Pickering - Rebecca Pickering who lived at Ballynagg? Ballyrashane in the 1890s on death record 1898 with her sister Maria Marshall.  Interesting - the paternal side has had Maria in every branch, still one around today.   Maria's husband cannot be found - presumably she was widowed very early - but census shows that she was born in Co Armagh. My DNA links me to a Richard Pickering in the early 1800s, but the sisters' father was William.    Now a very recent DNA match links me to Bullick of Farmhill - who were from Armagh orginally.  I since found two siblings Pickering marrying two siblings Bullick - with one of the brides being Maria in 1868 in Ardmore Co Armagh. If anyone can help find the links back, and a possible explanation of g g grandfather's demise at Farmhill I would be most interested.

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