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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: Weavers/Millworkers in Dundee (or Forfar?)
« on: Tuesday 06 December 16 03:57 GMT (UK)  »
The tools they are holding seem to have a slight curve at the end and look like they might be carpet making tools. The first two ladies at the front are also wearing protective leathers straps on their right wrists.
Hi there Heather from another Heather it looks like clippers, maybe a single needle for working up a ladder when the thread broke and a hand wool winder everyone would have probably worked in the same area but had a different task on the machines in the area. I actually worked in a knitting mill a couple of times in New Zealand thought it was really neat to have a chance to experience what my ancestors had done in the past gives you more of an idea of the skills they needed although our conditions and pay were a lot better. My Information is on WikiTree if you care to look I am sure we must have some relatives in common as my Rea, Stewart, Dickson, Morrison, MacDonald, Burns, Milne and other families appear to have been resident weavers in that district Forfar Aberdeen Angus, Dundee and Perthshire for at least 500 years I would be surprised if we didn't have some relatives in common. I have had a DNA done and lots of matches connected to my Scottish grandmother whose Dad was Nicol Rea so fingers crossed I would be surprised if we were not cousins. Heather Barford

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: Perhaps a Relative
« on: Monday 08 February 16 22:40 GMT (UK)  »
I really cannot recall the name of the street, I feel that I could actually go there if I was in Dundee as we called in every day but then I would have to know the name of the place where we were staying and time plays tricks on memory. I did say to someone once you could see the La Hull (Low Hill) from the yard but then I was informed everyone everywhere could.Uncle Dave was born 15 Jun 1862 Kingoodie village Longforgan,Perth and I know it was 1953 when he died as it was my first year of High School and my father called into the College to tell me so we must have received a telegram with the news. Uncle Dave's Mother was a Jean Stewart born 6th June 1826 Kirkmichael, Banff, (Perth) Scotland not sure when she died but my grandmother said both her grandparents were alive when they left for Australia possibly 1901. Yes our family have a habit of christening or registering a child with one name and calling them by another, probably to keep the family happy.
I guess electoral rolls and telephone books are still available, although most people use cellphones even a notice in the newspaper might work it would be a shame to visit a place and pretty frustrating to think I have family there but where? I think you probably have the correct street in those days it was pretty close to the knitting mills but I guess they are all gone now.

Thank you Heather

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Perthshire / Re: Memorial Inscription's Caputh Graveyard
« on: Monday 08 February 16 11:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there if you are still an active member do you mind looking to see if there are any grave inscriptions for Campbell.
Thank you

It certainly pays to check your old listings information that you discarded in the past can come in very useful a few years down the track.

Thank you
Heather


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The Common Room / Re: Have you ever..felt a little uncomfortable..
« on: Monday 08 February 16 11:13 GMT (UK)  »
Sometimes I think it is better to put something like the date of death and leave it at that.
Not really necessary to go into graphic detail of how and why, nobody really wants the world to know their ancestor committed a murder as a badge of pride.

 In the past often when someone committed suicide they put accidental death and then you find yourself looking for the accident, if others go on a treasure hunt, no doubt depending on the type of person they are, how they will react, some people feel tell the truth and shame the Devil, others feel the past should be left in the past and reflect quietly about it and move on.

Cheers

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Perhaps a Relative
« on: Monday 08 February 16 10:52 GMT (UK)  »
When I visited the UK with my grandmother in 1949 and 1956 we spent a lot of time with a family called Cunningham they lived in the same building as my ggreat uncle David Brodie who died in 1953 I called them aunty Kathy and uncle Archie they had two daughters the eldest Kathie I think was about 8/10 years older than me and married a John Smith shifting to live in London. The younger one may have been called Margaret' and I think did Highland dancing she came to New Zealand to live for a couple of years probably in the very early 60's her husband and two little boys he had a job as a truck driver for the Dairy factory in Dannevirke. I have actually tried for years to find this family I wondered if someone could look on the Dundee electoral roll to see how long they stayed there or if they shifted. It would be nice to contact Kathy who was so patient with me spending time that I appreciated, but I just feel time is running out to find or meet with them again.

Cheers Heather Douglas

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We now live on the opposite side of the world and this is what we did to the old system turned it on its head and changed it all with very little bloodshed and opportunities for everyone. Of course not everyone had the courage to change still haven't more would mean less for some.

I have tons of books on the old world my grandfather had a library with several thousand leather bound books that I wasn't suppose to read so I had finished them all by the time I was 8 and read everything in our local library, now I only read 5 to 7 a week and a lot of text books so much is available on the internet but I get your point and I realize how hard it was for our ancestors that were born into the class system I suppose it is just the pecking order in the barnyard.

Grandad always reckoned if a dozed people were marooned on a desert Island within a week one person would have most of the possessions to himself.

Cheers Have a good day

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Hi there again
 I seem to have got a bit muddled in the fact that I thought Burgess was the name of James wife's family, it is said when we hear or listen to something we tie it in with our present knowledge and the term here is foreign and shows a cultural difference, the same category would be Councillor. As we know quite a few people with the surname Burgess this is what I presumed.
 
If I can make a joke, perhaps they all attended the same Christmas Party.
However seeing the baby was so young maybe it was feared it might die.
 
I think perhaps in the sixties we all had an over supply of churches the job description seems to have altered since then. If one didn't turn up at church the minister besides making his customarily calls would be on the doorstep or rather having afternoon or morning tea to find out why? Now a lot of church duties have been taken over by celebrants or government trained offices. The people going to church seem to be mainly older and to attract people they have to be right out there with additional practices and services. Funny enough the street where I live has/had the manses of all the churches in the city, which was once an island and around the edge of the settled area each church staked out their territory and on the top of the hill the three connecting small streets each had a manse connected to a church with pathways or steps down the hill.
I suppose Guilds are what we call Unions now the representatives here would live in the poorest part of town. Trades people are considered middle class,or even better class and would live in a higher part of town. Doctors, lawyers and accountants would be interspersed among them and the farmers which have always been the background of our country outside the city area, but when they retired at an advanced age they sold their farm or handed it over to a family member, they bought a house in the upper suburbs then did the big OE returning to settle down and then joined some charity organization to have somewhere to go on a regular basis to meet with others from the same field, contribute to society and generally feel good about life after work.

My mothers family however have over a thousand years of ministry and missionary in their family tree and a lot of them quite elderly are still carrying on the good work. However I don't believe that you have to belong to an official religion to be a reasonably good person and help others to the best of your ability. 

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Thank You so kind of you I do appreciate this.

I have recently been able to afford to have my brothers Y DNA done as yet no results but I thought something I could do in the meantime was go back on our tree and try and tidy up a few loose ends, so if I had any matching family results I would have a firmer foundation to follow.
Imagine the poor little mite being baptized on the same day he arrived in the world, if their were other Burgess family on the page maybe it was a bulk deal, minister in town for a short duration, or maybe they were a large family whose members all attended that church.
It looks like on my fathers side we come from a long list of trades people, unfortunately however much I wish I was handy with tools I end up breaking more than I create seems I inherited my genetics that way from the other side. I read lots of books about the times they lived in which seem pretty grim to us now but no doubt they were just god fearing people of the times they lived in anyway. I do find it sad that the further back you go women don't seem to have a name they were just the wife or mistress of someone who did perhaps they were happy with having reached that pinnacle in life anyway. I guess as we read the past we try to bring our thoughts and values onto those who passed before when no doubt they fitted into their times perfectly.

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Sussex / Re: Birth Cert info - illegitimate births
« on: Monday 24 August 15 22:04 BST (UK)  »
Perhaps Chris has discovered an answer or has moved on. :D

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