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Hi all,

A year and a half later and I thought I'd update you on this saga - if you're still here. Since my last update, I spoke a bit more with Murdoch (author of Old Torridon) and he told me that he had transcribed Donald Morison's letters many years before and that they were likely in one of two places. Skoosh, it was you and Murdoch who both mentioned him early on to me. I managed to track the letters down and had a curator send them to me. On one of the letters (attached) Donald Morison mentions that he has "quit Torridon and marriage" and that "the mother" would not part with the boy. This was in 1787. We know Norman was born roughly 1790 but have never been able to confirm the actual year. I nearly fell off my chair when I first read this - I was just expecting notes about fishing.

So for quite a while I and a cousin also into our genealogy felt like this was a possible theory, but one that would probably always just remain a theory. This is where it gets a bit interesting...

My cousin ended up getting DNA samples from three different family members. We joined a Mackenzie DNA matching Facebook group to chase down a couple Mackenzie possibilities from the area. While there, we realized we matched DNA 5 generations back (starting at my grandmother's generation) with two different people, indicating a common ancestor amongst all of us. So we'd be potentially looking for one of Normand or Isabella's grandparents. 

Initially exploring possible Mackenzie links with no luck, one of the two matches asked about the spelling of Normand's name - hey, sounds like Lewis. So, I shared the Donald Morison theory. They then shared that they are both descended from the Morisons Brieves from Lewis, including one who is a direct descendent of Roderik Morison (son of Rev Murdo of Barvas) who started the Tanera fisheries.

With the generational DNA match, assuming it is indeed the Morison line that connects us (and not a Mackenzie one - which we have not yet been able to identify), it means our common ancestor with these two people was potentially Normand's grandfather. Which would mean Roderik and Donald were potentially cousins. We haven't been able to prove they were related yet on paper...but they both happened to be in the business of starting fisheries down the coast from each other. And if you're still with me, it means that we now potentially have a DNA link that would support Donald as Normand's dad, and thus that Normand actually might have been the "boy" in the letter. And that's how he'd end up being born in Torridon with no other Morisons around.

The one sticking point I've never been fully convinced of is how Normand ended up as a regular crofter if he came from a somewhat prominent merchant family. My cousin did some research on Donald and found that he had several short marriages and quite a few kids and that he was more or less broke from his time in Torridon (lots of debts) right up until he died. We still have a lot more to explore on him and Roderick but this is lightyears away from where I was when I first messaged you here. It's still just a theory but at least it's one with a bit of teeth now.

Since we last spoke I spent a week on Isle of Eigg this past November and also was back in Edinburgh to see family. I was supposed to be back in the Torridon area in June this year but given the circumstances, that's being held off. I will be back soon enough, I hope! And yes Skoosh, very tempted. One day.

I hope you are all keeping well!


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Hi all - been meaning to update you on my trip to the north west and especially to Portlair earlier this month. I was able to find Norman Morrison's rental records at the Gairloch museum. Unfortunately, his record disappears, in earlier 1800s, because he was likely paying a "tax man" and wasn't listed.

I haven't been able to get past with him because of that - but I did learn of an additional child that we had no record of (must have been born/died in between censuses) and the year of Norman's death (1841) which we never knew before. It means he died while living in Portlair.

We also learned that their eldest son Murdoch died as a young man the same year while poaching. The curator believes it was likely a shooting accident. Interestingly, William, my direct descendent named his first born son Murdo - assumedly after his big brother. That son is my grandmother's grandfather...so it gives his name a bit more meaning. Another interesting point was that on the rental records Norman Morrison is listed as the "primary" renter (of two), and has a subcrofter living with him Murdo Maclennan (assumedly his wife's brother?). After they were removed, I believe Murdo was the only farmer who stayed. So I do wonder if Norman hadn't died...if the family would have been allowed to stay.

I also was able to see the original estate map that had "Widow Morrison" written on the croft they were eventually moved to in South Erradale in 1845, and went and visited there. We also saw the neighbouring croft where William met his wife, and where Murdo (my grandmother's grandfather) was born.

The highlight of the trip was hiking from Diabaig into Portlair. It took two hours one-way and there were several challenging scrambles. We passed by two lochs on the top of the mountain, and then made it down into Portlair. There is a full ruined croft there that is very overgrown with ferns, but you could make out a cairn fence, a larger building with windows, and an adjoining shed. The one thing that struck me was how small the available arable land was. There was maybe a 3/4 acre field. They obviously fished and poached to feed themselves. And based on the hike in, they also obviously only travelled by boat. Going by foot would have been very difficult (as evidenced by a very nice bruise I got on the ascent.) Does anyone know if in the mid-1800s if average people would have been buried in a kirk yard or on their land? Curious if Norman/Murdoch could have been buried there. I may or may not have taken a few stones from the ruined croft...just in case it was in fact somehow related to ours.

It was pretty incredible to be able to walk in their footprints, and for a non-superstitious person I can't deny I had a visceral response that it "felt like home" while staying on loch Torridon, and in a completely different way than I've ever felt in Scotland. I've attached a photo - I'm looking down into the Portlair cove. You can see the newer white family cottage on the left.

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hahaha. I think you are right that the author really didn't know what he was talking about. And no - I was just reviewing the Portlair census and there are no mentions of a ferryman. Just Normand as an ag worker, an 80-year-old relation of his wife also ag worker, and a brother-in-law fisherman. I also just cannot imagine that a ferry at Portlair and a trek over the moor would be a desired route given alternative options. Very odd!!

And Skoosh, sounds like quite an adventure! Will remember about a possible lunch in Badachro...might skip on the yacht.




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Hi again,

Haven't heard back from Bill Lawson.

But, I've had another interesting development. I've found a mention of a "Port Blair" on Loch Shieldaig that is listed in Miller's Royal Tourist Guides to the Highlands and the Islands in 1877.

Here's a pull quote:
"hills of Torridon beyond Opposite Flowerdale is Eilean Horrisdale protecting the small bay or harbour of Badacro at one time a busy resort of the herring fishing fleet but since the failure of this fishery fallen into decay Badacro has a small public house and shops. From it a moorland track runs southward to Port Blair on Loch Shieldag from which a boat ferries to the southern shore of Loch Torridon and Shieldag village. From thence a good road leads to Jeantown or Strome on Loch Carron"

and: "At Diobaig is a fishing clachan and at Port Blair is the ferry house nicely built without mortar from the slaty Cambrian sandstone of Alligin While days may be spent loitering in sight of the solemn and savage scenery of Torridon the tourist will have to trust to his feet for travel Reaching the eastern end of Upper Torridon by a path a good road will then carry the tourist to Kinlochewe on Loch Maree."


I've done a search and can't find a Port Blair on Loch Shieldaig. Of course, there is a Port Lair. He repeats similar directions three times with 'Port Blair' and nearby Diabaig involved and I've tried to follow what he's talking about on a map... and while I can...taking "a wild moorland path" (he calls it later) from Port Lair to Gairloch sounds like an incredible trek. Am I missing something?

If you search Port Blair in the doc below you'll see 3 references.

https://books.google.ca/books?id=_LsHAAAAQAAJ&pg=RA4-PA77&lpg=RA4-PA77&dq=port+lair+fishing+torridon&source=bl&ots=TcqbgHPG8-&sig=4veUacTgopVnbLE_5dtoGI8tiAY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjN84aXj6XcAhUl_4MKHYKBCL0Q6AEwAHoECAEQAQ#v=onepage&q=Port%20Blair&f=false



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Inverness / Re: McBean/Fraser/McGillivray/MacIntosh Daviot/Dunlichity
« on: Monday 16 July 18 01:35 BST (UK)  »
Hi Harper,

I'm not sure I'll be much help - just here to say that I am just starting to look for ancestors with surnames McGillivray/MacIntosh from Daviot Dunlichity through the same time periods. Another relative of mine (who lives in Scotland) did speak to a historian about them once and was told it was highly likely the family would have been involved in Culloden given their names and location. Like you, I'm trying to find actual evidence of this.

One thing to consider that I've been told on here is traditional naming patterns. It seems likely that yours does somewhat follow it (sons are named after paternal grandfathers), and you have several William Frasers in a row on the paternal line. This would indicate, I would assume, that the generation before is also a William Fraser - perhaps born around 1720/30, if you calculate the general difference in the previous generations.

Someone who understands Gaelic naming would be better to answer you about the questionable McGlashan but I wonder if it might be their alias, which was often listed in the old records, (which I think, is usually naming their fathers/grandfathers). I looked it up and looks like it may be Mac Glaisein which I believe would mean "Son of Glaisein" ...whatever Glaisein means. Hope someone who knows more pipes in, but it could help you trace the family.

You might also have some luck finding a William Fraser from the right area in this publication or others that list those who fought for/supported the Prince - I was looking at this tonight before your post came up: https://ia801304.us.archive.org/25/items/alistpersonscon00excigoog/alistpersonscon00excigoog.pdf

Also - last point. I have just started in this area so have no idea what is available, but for another line in the north west I'm tracing, the local museum has tenant records from the area. I'm going to check them out when I'm there in a few weeks. It's possible there's something similar in this parish.

If I find anything that might be helpful I'll let you know. I'll also keep an eye here in case anyone has better ideas!

Kailey

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Thanks Skoosh! Will try to get in touch with Bill. Would be lovely if that were the case!!

Received Murdoch MacDonald's book today. I need to do a full read on it, but I did read that most of Donald Morison's work in the area for fishing was in the late 1780s...and that he was likely unpaid and went back to Lewis a few short years later. Normand's birth is listed as approx 1790, although as indicated in earlier threads, his birth year is debatable. Still, it seems unlikely that he would have been of age to help. Perhaps the link was Normand's father? Or, none at all.. I just can't imagine why else he'd be in Portlair during that decade...with quite literally no other Morisons around. Hoping the curator at Gairloch museum can help clarify this element of it.

I'm going to be in Wester Ross in about eight weeks time so trying to get enough information to guide me while I'm there. I will be hiking into Portlair. If anyone has any recommendations for other things to do in the area (genealogical, hiking, or general suggestions) please let me know :)

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Hi all,

So I got in touch with Steve, who got me in touch with someone named Alice, who got me in touch with Murdoch MacDonald, the author of "Old Torridon".

This was his response to a summary email I sent inquiring about Portlair and Normand/Donald Morison:

I'm only aware of a couple of families living at Portlair; it is pretty remote and both would have been Gaelic-speaking. They were Maclennans and Camerons and Campbells. The land there is part of the parish of Diabaig and therefore the Gairloch estate. Donald Morison was from Lewis (a relation of the Morison brieves there, I believe) and set up the curing station at Ardmore, on behalf of Kenneth Mackenzie. I'm not aware that he had any land, and as far as I know he was only in Torridon for a few years. He may well have taken over one or more of his relatives to help with building the curing station. I suspect Mackenzie didn't pay him what he was due, and he went back to Lewis as far as I know.
Morison is not a common name around the loch, and I'm not aware of any others.
Sorry I can't be of more help.

regards
Murdoch MacDonald


A few things I've learned from this:

1. The fact that there were no other Morisons near the loch reinforces the idea that Normand likely came from Lewis (and likely with Donald)
2. The fact that there were Maclennans in Portlair...and Normand married a Isabella (Bell) Maclennan in 1813 may be the connection to Portlair
3. He says that Portlair is actually part of the Gairloch estate, which means I may be able to go record searching at the museum in the fall
4. If Normand is related to Donald, there could be a connection to the brieves

I've done an initial search on Donald Morison to see if I can confirm him as a relation, but haven't been able to find very much. I will continue with it - if anyone can find anything more on him, please let me know :)

Kailey


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Thanks for the suggestions Skoosh, I will do all of what you've listed. I do have an appt with the Gairloch museum for when I'm there, so hopefully I can find something. Are there any others I should be looking into, or is Gairloch the only one?

And thanks Forfarian, so neat. I stayed up late two nights ago going through a HTML version of Dixon's book. I did find several references to a Donald Morrison who lived in Drumchork. It says this about him:

"Donald Morrison, of Drumchork, was a grandson of Murdo's son and Lord Breadalbane's daughter. He went to see the Lord Breadalbane of his day, a descendant of the lord whose daughter was married to Murdo's son. Lord Breadalbane gave Donald Morrison three hundred pounds when he went to the castle. Rorie Morrison also went to see Lord Breadalbane, but he did not get anything. Donald was a very fine, tall, handsome man, and looked grand in his kilt and plaid; there was no one like him in the country, so good-looking and so well shaped for the kilt!""

It never mentions any kind of fishing business management, and I don't know much about Lord Breadalbane, but a brief google search makes me think it's not the same Donald..as the family lineage is not from Lewis from what I can tell.

In the part where it describes in great detail all of the little towns and lakes, they stop JUST short of where Norman and family were living, so nothing there either. It was more of a key word search than a full read, so if you do find anything interesting at some point please let me know! I will do the full read at some point.

Will update you if I find anything interesting via Skoosh's suggestions!

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Skoosh - again, so very interesting. My Nana was told that the family had been pushed out by the clearances from that home. Wasn't sure when, or if it was true, but based on what you've listed below about 1831 that makes complete sense. Perhaps that is when they moved closer to Gairloch.

Regarding the house, I would imagine that the Morrison homestead is no longer standing. I am likely going to hike it out there when I'm there this fall, perhaps find a footprint of it or a similar rock scene from our family photo.

Can you please also refer me to where you found the information regarding Donald Morrison? A whole new chapter to explore now!  If you have any direction for me on where I might find rental records for Port Lair for Mackenzie, please let me know.

Thank you both again for this. You should charge for this - you're both pros!

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