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Lanarkshire / Re: George Faile from Symington/Lamington Lanarkshire, looking for help
« on: Saturday 11 November 17 02:08 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for your help Manda_McD.  with all the information I have I'm still stuck ??? I will research further with the link you gave me.  The John Faile you mention are the names to the left his children?

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Lanarkshire / Re: George Faile from Symington/Lamington Lanarkshire, looking for help
« on: Friday 27 October 17 20:25 BST (UK)  »
I obtained from a family member copies of old genealogical research papers, History of the the De La Faile up to the Faile family.  Spelling of the name changed through the years and it depended on the area you resided.  The first to settle was in Argati, Perthshire, Scotland in the early 1600's name William Faile.  He died in 1637.  Information was obtained from references such as Commissary of Dublane, Perthshire. Information, references in these papers was also obtained from Sasines, Roxburghshire Berwick Church records, Lamington records. Howard Coll. for Lanark. It all looks legitimate, but I need to read multiple times to understand it all.
 
George Faile b1749-d1802 resided in Symington and Lamington, Lanarkshire (looking for where he died and possibly buried)

George Faile (son moved to US in 1801) b1775-d1846 resided in Symington (Semistone or Symondstone) Lamington, Lanarkshire. (His son below)

Edward Faile b1799-d1846 He was born in Semistone, Oxnam Parish, Roxburghshire (this information recorded in the Faile Bible.)

There is much talk of the sale, leasing and heirs of Faile land. most land is located in Lamington and Oxnam. Some of the written dialect is hard to understand because its the 1700's. In some instances Faile is spelled Mcphail. So I'm throwing it out there maybe someone can direct me where to search. I'm willing to pay a fee if there is some site that could help research or look at records.

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Lanarkshire / Re: George Faile from Symington/Lamington Lanarkshire, looking for help
« on: Thursday 19 October 17 20:02 BST (UK)  »
Yes, everything seems to stop with the George Faile who came to New York with his family. We visited the family plot a few years back.  I have papers with descedents names and history dating back to Jean De La Faile 1400's. They originated in Belgium then to England and ending up in Scotland. Through the years the name changed, it appeared as Faile, Faille then to MacPhail or M'Phail in Scotland. The Perthshire decendents retained the name of Faile but it was frequently written MacPhail etc. I guess they frowned on the last name Fail/Faile because it meant a corruption.  So possibly George Sr. was a McPhail or it was written as?
 Yes it's noted the 4th child Jonet a daughter was declared heir to two acres of land in Lamington after her Father's death. There was a Faile Abby that was located in the Parish of Tarbolton, Ayrshire 1500's. The Faile towns lands were found in Kilmernock 1500's. There is so much I have to read a there is alot.  I'm finding better results with My Great Grandfather x3 Samuel Chapman. He was born in Loudoun and his family lived in the Ayrshire area which I'm still working on.  My husband and I would like to visit Scotland after we hopefully pinpoint more precise areas where they lived and possibly buried.   Thanks for your help! Allison

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Lanarkshire / George Faile from Symington/Lamington Lanarkshire, looking for help
« on: Thursday 19 October 17 12:38 BST (UK)  »
I'm looking to find information on my husbands great grandfather x5.  His name is George Faile, born 1749 died 1802. He was born and family resided in Symington and or Lamington Scotland.  He was married to Jonet Mochrie birth/death unknown. His son George Faile born 1775 died 1846 was married to Josephine Hall. In 1801 they came to New York to settle.  I have complete information up to George Faile from New York.  What I'm looking for is information on his father Geroge Faile x5. He remained in Scotland till his death in 1802. His daughter was declared heir to his land in Lamington. I want to confirm did he die in Lamington? and looking for records on his death and where he is buried?  Also George Sr's fathers name is Malcolm Faile, born 1714 in the same area. I have checked the scotlands people site and cant find any information on the family. Hoping to visit some day!  Allison

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Ayrshire / Re: Samuel Chapman born 1781 Loudoun, searching for information & gravesite location
« on: Wednesday 18 October 17 12:32 BST (UK)  »
I'm waiting for more info from my Brother. Hoping he has names of Samuel Chapman Sr's children, so I can narrow it down to the correct family.  I found papers, someone recorded family history when they talked to my great grandfathers youngest son. He states that Samuel Sr and Samuel Jr were born in Ireland and came over to Scotland and notes the family were from a place called Airdrie near Glasgow. He says his father in the late 1800's visted cousins in Airdrie. Samuel Jr. married Margaret Spittal and moved to the US. He was the only child to do so but doesnt list the siblings names.  So seems like I'm getting more correct info. Since you're being of help to me I have another question,  this on my husbands side. His great grandfather x4 George Faile came to New York from Scotland. So we are looking for info on his father great grandfather x5 George Faile. Hopefully residence/burial info.  He was born 1749 Symington/Lamington Lanarkshire Scotland died 1802. Reading he probably died there because his daughter was heir to his land. Reason I'm searching for grandpa Chapman x3 and  grandpa Faile x5 is to maybe plan a trip to Scotland. Would like to visit where they lived hopefully to find family & burial spots. Please no hurry to respond and thanks again!  George Faile x5 spouse was Jonet Mochrie.

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Ayrshire / Re: Samuel Chapman born 1781 Loudoun, searching for information & gravesite location
« on: Tuesday 17 October 17 13:46 BST (UK)  »
Oh that makes sense look for Samuel Jrs Death Certificate in illionis. We should be able to find that and hopefully get his parent info on there. We are visitng the cemetery in Illinois in a few weeks.  I'll get back to you. Thanks for your help!!

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Ayrshire / Re: Samuel Chapman born 1781 Loudoun, searching for information & gravesite location
« on: Tuesday 17 October 17 13:36 BST (UK)  »
My brother prepared our family tree, i will talk to my brother. It says Samuel Sr is listed as born 1781 in Loudoun. That's All. Marriage certificate lists marriage to Helen in loudoun 1806. Son Samuel Jr born in Darvel (buried in Elgin) marriage certificate correct, says married in Cadder. Its on scotlands people site. Still need to pay to view marriage certificates.

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Ayrshire / Re: Samuel Chapman born 1781 Loudoun, searching for information & gravesite location
« on: Tuesday 17 October 17 13:20 BST (UK)  »
Yes the son is buried in Elgin Illinois near us. Hopefully want to find where his father Samuel and mother Helen are buried.

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Ayrshire / Re: Samuel Chapman born 1781 Loudoun, searching for information & gravesite location
« on: Tuesday 17 October 17 13:13 BST (UK)  »
Yes he would be my Great Grandfather x2.  He's buried here in the US close to where we live. His Father Samuel Grandfather x3 was born in 1781 Loudoun Scotland. He was married in Scotland and remained ther till his death. Which I'm yet to figure out. I found his marriage certificate and still need to view it.

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