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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: English with a R1A-Z94-Y52 YDNA
« on: Friday 12 April 24 19:57 BST (UK)  »
Are you the swiss person on yfull which also has y1269?

It's the furthest known clade on this line that's been recorded.

It's seems fairly certain this is a "Sarmatian/Scythian" clade from what's been found so far. Quite rare in west Europe and central Europe. Even in East Europe it's rare in r1a found there, which is normally the western clades. It's one of the furthest east clades of r1a which entered Europe.

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Leicestershire / Thomas Hubbard and Irish Mary?
« on: Tuesday 09 April 24 22:18 BST (UK)  »
I've posted about this family before but I've recently realised I had some wrong records, especially concerning who I thought the parents were.

It turns out the mother Mary was Irish, although I'm not sure where from. Possibly Dublin? and possibly with the surname Landy? I cant seem to find a marriage for them?

The family is this -

Thomas Hubbard, born c1783. Marries Mary before 1812? In Ireland? On the 1841 census listed as born in Leicestershire. Buried 1848 Leicester, aged 65, of Wheat Street. Maybe is the Thomas Hubbard of Langton, Leicestershire, aged 17 who joins the 30th (Cambridgeshire) Regiment of Foot in 1805, apparently enlisting in Dublin, Ireland? and is discharged in 1818/1819?
The closest is a Thomas Hubbard baptised 1778 Langtons, son of John. Closer to death age but out by a few on the age given on that military record.

Mary, born c1782. On census 1841, 1851 and 1861 is listed as born in Ireland. Possibly Landy? (Long shot)

They have the following children -
William Hubbard, born c1812. On the 1841 census when him and his parents are living in Leicester, he is given as born in Ireland. I cant seem to find him after 1841. Nor can I find a baptism for him.

Elizabeth Hubbard, baptised 1815 Countesthorpe, Leicestershire. Marries William Lord 1838 Leicester. Baptised in Countesthorpe but Elizabeth states on census records that she was born in Dublin, Ireland and on the 1861 census born Countesthorpe. Some of her children for some reason have the mothers maiden surname as 'Nichols' and some as 'Hubbard' on the birth records and I'm not sure why. Buried 1893 Blaby. In 1891 on census with daughter Selina's family.

Catherine Hubbard, baptised 1816 Countesthorpe. Buried 1828 Sapcote, Leicestershire.

Eliza Ann Hubbard, baptised 1820 Countesthorpe. In 1841 living on Gas Street, Leicester. Marries Thomas Smith, 1843 Leicester.

Caroline/Carole Hubbard, baptised 1822 Countesthorpe. In 1841 living on Metcalf Street, Leicester. Marries David Door 1842 Leicester. Buried 1875 Leicester.

Ellen Hubbard, baptised 1825 Countesthorpe. Buried 1832 Countesthorpe.

Selina Hubbard, baptised 1828 Sapcote, Leicestershire. In 1841 living on Wharf Street, Leicester. In 1851? In 1861 living with mother Mary on Birkley Street, Leicester. In 1871 Living on Birkley Street, Leicester.
Caroline and Elizabeth both name daughters Selina as well.

In regards to the Irish connection and baptism on William. There is a catholic baptism in London 1812 for a William Hubbard, son of Thomas Hubbard and Mary Landy. Witness/Sponsor is a James Landy. I can see no marriage for these two but there is a baptism in Dublin 1780 for a Mary Landy, daughter of James Landy and Mary. Could this be my Mary? The Thomas Hubbard apparently joined in Dublin 1805? There is also another baptism in the same church for this pair in 1808 for a daughter Maria Anna. Mothers name is given as Mary Landley* There is no more baptisms in this church after 1812 for these Hubbards.

In 1851, Mary's birth place is given as Ireland and then another word, I cant quite make it out. One person has transcribed it as 'Meath' but I'm not sure if that is correct. I will attach it below.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Clerke?
« on: Friday 05 April 24 15:18 BST (UK)  »
These are the spellings of 'county', 'church' and another mention of '_lerke'.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Clerke?
« on: Friday 05 April 24 15:07 BST (UK)  »
The word Grandfather is clear to me, I just included it as I think the word is the surname of the grandfather and in the will its wrote as 'Grandfather Clerke*'.

This letter is nowhere else on the will apart from another mention of 'Grandfather _lerke'. The 'c' in 'county' is not spelt like it either. It does look like a 'c' just with a flourish at the top left like you suggest but why only do this on this word and no other words beginning with 'C' in the will. I think it may be meant as a flourished upper case 'C'.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Clerke?
« on: Friday 05 April 24 11:18 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

Would I be correct in thinking this is 'Clerke'?

I've been trying to find the parents of Ann who married Fulke/Fulco Button, Gentleman, of Kimcote, Leicestershire c1580-1639. In Ann's will of 1642 (Can be seen on FindMyPast) she mentions 'Grandfather ?Clerke?' as giving some money in his will to her children, which I think is her father as she already mentions 'Grandfather Button' (Father of Fulke) in the will giving money to her children as well.
It doesn't help that there doesn't appear to be a marriage record between them, that I have found yet.

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Cambridgeshire / Re: Elizabeth Boswell? Traveller?
« on: Saturday 16 March 24 12:36 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for this, I've got some stuff to look through.

Humberstone Field is referring to the field at Humberstone, which is either where the Golf course now is or Humberstone Park. Humberstone was a village near Leicester which has been incorporated into Leicester City as a suburb.

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Cambridgeshire / Elizabeth Boswell? Traveller?
« on: Friday 15 March 24 09:53 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

I'm looking for a baptism of an Elizabeth Boswell.

On the 10th of November 1762, John Stacey/Stacy, Widower, marries Elizabeth Boswell, Spinster (She signs with an x) at Cambridge, Cambridgeshire.

They then move to Fen Stanton and Bluntisham, Huntingdonshire.
Elizabeth is buried 1794 Fen Stanton, Huntingdonshire.

The only baptism at Cambridge in a similar timeframe is -
William Boswell, son of William and Mary, bapt 1751 Cambridge.

I don't think Elizabeth is a daughter of these two as William Boswell, Bachelor, marries Mary Mott in 1749 at Cambridge.

There are a few baptisms in Cambridge during the 1720s but no Elizabeth.
She could be the daughter of -
John Boswell/Boswel and Zipporah/Zeph Fawtrey/Fawtry/Fortrey/Fortry who marry in Cambridge 1726.
They only appear to have one child baptised though, from what I can see, a Zipporah in 1727 who also dies in 1727. A Zephorah Boswell is buried 1747, who I assume is the wife of John.

There is then a William Boswell and Mary who baptise a daughter Sarah in 1723 Cambridge/Barnwell.

Then there is a Charles Boswell, baptised 1727 Whittlesford, Cambridge, to Elias Boswell and Mary. Perhaps this Elias is the Elijah who is buried 1735 Cambridge?

It had occurred that perhaps Elizabeth was a member of the Gypsy Boswells and that's why there a re no baptisms? I have another Boswell line on my fathers side in the same period in the midlands which seemingly have a brick wall with baptisms as well.
A John Boswell is buried 1787 Trumpington, Cambridge. With a birthdate given of 1691 and the note says 'A Gipsy Workhouse'. I wonder if this is the previously mentioned John?

I have also a family rumour on this line that one of the ancestors was ''French, and spoke French'' but after 12 years of searching I haven't found any trace at all of non-english descent. Now, I'm wondering if they were perhaps Romany and spoke Romany? The family rumour comes from my 3rd great grandfather who said that his grandfather said that his ancestor was French and spoke French. This grandfathers mother was Elizabeth Stacey, daughter of John Stacey and Elizabeth Boswell. I have come across other people who have had a similar family rumour, that they had a French or Italian ancestor but actually turned out to be Romany.

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Australia / Re: Henry Kirby/Kerby transportation.
« on: Thursday 18 January 24 08:56 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for that, That date had been on my tree for many years and when going back over my tree I never thought to check it.

Bermuda seems right now, Just looking over the records again.

So it appears like this (I think)
8th February 1849, Aboard the ship 'Neptune' heading to Bermuda.
Sept 1849, Aboard the Medway Hulk, Bermuda. Was here 1849-1852.
Dec 1852, Listed on the Medway list as transferred to Dromedary Hulk.
At some point between, transferred to Tenedos Hulk.
Dies 12 Sept 1853, Tenedos Hulk. (Having seen Tenedos here, I can see it clearly now on the record)

Thanks for all the help.

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Australia / Re: Henry Kirby/Kerby transportation.
« on: Wednesday 17 January 24 20:39 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you, for some reason I didn't think to check prison records on FindMyPast.

I think you are correct about it stating Leander Hulk. That's what it looks like to me.
Looks like he didn't go to Australia then. If he was discharged from Leander, I wonder where he went. He doesn't appear to go back to his family, at least not in 1861.

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