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Australia / Re: Marcus Haselden - Transported on the Jupiter, December 1832
« on: Friday 10 May 19 22:26 BST (UK)  »
The burial ground for St Matthew's is located in Stephen st, New Norfolk, separate from the church and not very large. Around the time of Marcus' death, an invalid hospital and asylum at New Norfolk was being expanded into what would become a large facility, so I had wondered if it had its own cemetery.

This page lists the Pioneer Memorial Walls in the St Matthew's Stephen st site and confirms it as the burial ground used by the hospital, saying "...there were more than 1950 burials here with many in multiple graves.  These graves contain people of all denominations and status : prominent citizens, free settlers, children, convicts, inmates of the nearby asylum and paupers."
http://monumentaustralia.org.au/themes/landscape/settlement/display/70634-pioneer-memorial-walls

Marcus name can be found on this plaque as Hazeldine, the spelling used in his death registration
http://monumentaustralia.org.au/content/directory/full/Pioneer_Memorial_Walls-26028-70634.jpg

Death reg.
https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD34-1-1p164j2k

M

Matthew,

THANK YOU!!! This is tremendously helpful and puts the final piece of the jigsaw puzzle in place for Marcus.  Can't thank you enough for all the info you've provided.  I'd have never got there on my own.  If ever I can repay the favour, please let me know.

Kind regards,
Mark

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Australia / Re: Marcus Haselden - Transported on the Jupiter, December 1832
« on: Friday 10 May 19 19:36 BST (UK)  »
Answering my own question, I found James Green's personal description and conduct record.  He seems to have been a rather more hardened criminal than Marcus judging by the multiple offences he committed AFTER transportation - being AWOL, feigning sickness, refusing to work, and severely beating an overseer. 

He came from London, which makes me wonder how he and Marcus met and ended up being in the North East of England. 

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Australia / Re: Marcus Haselden - Transported on the Jupiter, December 1832
« on: Friday 10 May 19 13:35 BST (UK)  »
I did a little Googling and found a history of St.Matthew's Church, New Norfolk Parish, which confirmed that the minister who oversaw Marcus Haselden's funeral, "W. Garrard" was the vicar at St.Matthew's at the time.  Now, that doesn't mean Marcus was buried in the churchyard.  The burial ground could have been an entirely different location within the Parish.  Even if he was buried at St.Matthew's, I understand most of the grave markers have suffered badly from weathering over the years and are now unreadable. 

I also found a couple of brief UK newspaper articles about Marcus' conviction.  It seems he had teamed up with a James Green to commit the crime.  James Green was transported on the same ship as Marcus but, as yet, I've been unable to find any other records about him (just in case there are inferences about Marcus...for example, it would be fun to know where James Green came from in case it was Lancashire, as was the case with Marcus). 

Finally, I took another look at Marcus' Convict Record.  It was only after looking at the details for a while that I realized his "absent from muster" occurred while he was with the Constitution Hill Road Company which, in turn, had been his punishment for absconding from Mr William Page's property.  Also, I presume his 6-months at Bridgewater were taken from the 12 months he was originally awarded as punishment for absconding?

Kind regards,
Mark

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Australia / Re: Marcus Haselden - Transported on the Jupiter, December 1832
« on: Thursday 09 May 19 16:39 BST (UK)  »
An article and photos of existing buildings from the Bridgewater convict station here:
http://ontheconvicttrail.blogspot.com/2013/05/bridgewater-convict-station.html

The name after his death in the record would be Lieutenant Nicholas Wrixen, superintendent at Bridgewater.

I'll look in to where he may have been buried

M

Add: his other convict records here-
https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/detailnonmodal/ent:$002f$002fNAME_INDEXES$002f0$002fNAME_INDEXES:1400038/one

Hi Matthew,

I had found the On The Convict Trail blog.  I thought it was an excellent overview of the history and surviving structures of the Bridgewater site.

Thank you so much for all your help.  I truly appreciate your offer to find his burial location.  It would be wonderful if you discovered anything.

Kind regards,
Mark

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Australia / Re: Marcus Haselden - Transported on the Jupiter, December 1832
« on: Wednesday 08 May 19 23:41 BST (UK)  »
Context is everything.  Thank you Matthew and Maiden Stone for your help.

Maiden Stone, you're absolutely right.  I mis-typed his death date.  It was, indeed, 1834.   

A few days ago, the only record I had for Marcus was his Christening.  Now I have a fair amount of life history, including a detailed physical description.  It's great to document these details to add to his story.

Many thanks,
Mark

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Australia / Re: Marcus Haselden - Transported on the Jupiter, December 1832
« on: Wednesday 08 May 19 23:05 BST (UK)  »
He was sent to Bridgewater for being absent from muster
Conduct record here  https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON31-1-20$init=CON31-1-20p208

At that time convict chain gangs were being used to construct a causeway, and associated roads, across the Derwent river.

There are reports from around the time of illness and deaths.

"The accounts respecting the Bridgewater chain gang are very unsatisfactory, there are upwards of fifty men discharged to the hospital and several deaths have occurred."
1834 'Domestic Intelligence.', Colonial Times (Hobart, Tas. : 1828 - 1857), 11 November, p. 7. , viewed 09 May 2019, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article8647915

M

WOW!!! Thank you, Matthew. 

I'm having a hard time deciphering the writing but this is what I have so far:

"22 February 1834  Page - Absconding, 12 months' imprisonment and hard labour, Construction Hill R Company(?) ??????"

"24 June 1834,  absent from muster, 6 months' imprisonment and hard labour at Bridgewater, another to be sent Construction Hill, R Company."

"Died at Bridgewater, 1st November 1834."

Dunno if the above is close to what was written.  However, I do appreciate you pointing me to these records.

Kind regards,
Mark

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Australia / Marcus Haselden - Transported on the Jupiter, December 1832
« on: Wednesday 08 May 19 22:12 BST (UK)  »
I recently discovered that a Great x5 Uncle, Marcus Haselden, was convicted of housebreaking at the Durham Assizes in the summer of 1832, and was transported to Van Diemen's Land aboard the Jupiter the following December. 

Marcus is listed as "Asst to Mr. Page" which I presumed to mean he was assigned to work for a local private citizen.  The next record is his death in November 1833 at Bridgewater.  It's my understanding that convicts sent to Bridgewater were repeat offenders.  Therefore, is it fair to assume that Marcus probably committed some crime, perhaps while working for Mr. Page, that resulted in his being sent to Bridgewater?

His burial date is 6 November 1833.  Four other convicts were buried that same day:
         Robert Polder (Bridgewater)
         John Ward (New Norfolk)
         John Boyde (New Norfolk)
         Morris Wilcox (New Norfolk)

Is it possible that all 5 of them died in the same event?  Also, would they be buried in St.Matthew's Church, New Norfolk? 

Any pointers or advice would be most welcome.  I'd also be interested if there are any histories of the convict facility in Bridgewater. 

Many thanks,
Mark

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World War One / Re: Royal Air Corp - Service location?
« on: Friday 29 December 17 02:02 GMT (UK)  »
There is a vague chance that his pre-commission records was in the burnt records (worth checking in case it was and survived the fire).

You should also check officers' records at TNA (WO 339 and WO 374) - I have only researched one RAF officer and his file was there - 40 or so pages of it.

His Aviator's Certificate card would show when he qualified as a pilot, where and what he was flying.

Thanks for the suggestions, Newburychap.  I checked out WO 339 and 374 and, alas, no joy.  I can also find no Aviator's Certificate card for him, nor does he appear in the burnt records.  So it looks like I've discovered all there is to find.

Really do appreciate the suggestions.

Kind regards,
Mark

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World War One / Re: Royal Air Corp - Service location?
« on: Thursday 28 December 17 03:52 GMT (UK)  »
If it doesn't say on his service record (which might not be too concerned with his pre-officer career) then I don't know where else to look. Sorry.

You might try the Great War Forum  - if more records exist someone there will know about them.

Yeah, that's about what I suspected.  My relative has 2 of the 2-page records of service which both contain different data from his time as a pilot.  I suspect his earlier record as an Aircraft Mechanic was thrown away once he completed pilot training.  It's a shame because I'd love to know where he served for the first 31 months of his service.  Maybe something will come up...but I suspect I have all there is to find, which is still more than many families have whose WWI records were lost.

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