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The Common Room / Marine Fireman Glasgow
« on: Thursday 15 August 19 23:10 BST (UK)  »
I’m hoping somebody can point me in the right direction. My gggrandfather was John Smith born 1839 in Mouswald. He moved to Glasgow married Janet Graham and they had three children. Their daughter Margaret Ferguson Smith died less then a year old in Glasgow. I have John and Janet on 112 Plantation St in 1901 and Janet living there in1905. Janet died whilst living at 167 West street with her son James Graham Smith. I can find nothing for John Smiths death or burial. I assume he was buried with his daughter and wife but I can’t locate their graves either in Glasgow or Mouswald or Dumfries.  I looked at all the John Smith that got his age on Scotland’s People but no luck. Any help would be great. He is listed as a Marine Fireman on the census.

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Lochmaben Cemetery MIA Name
« on: Saturday 18 August 18 22:15 BST (UK)  »
My sister and I have been exploring our father’s family and believe his father was Robert Rutherford. What was your grandfathers occupation prior to the war.

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Other Countries / Re: Palestine Police 1936 to 1940
« on: Saturday 23 June 18 20:55 BST (UK)  »


I’m wondering if Rachel received the documents from the MOD and were they helpful. My grandfather was also in the Palestine Police force and then joined the RAF. I’d use the same route you did - if it was helpful.

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Lochmaben Cemetery MIA Name
« on: Tuesday 19 June 18 16:32 BST (UK)  »
My father never spoke to us about his father.  What we know, we know from brief conversations with family members.  As to why such a family secret - one of life’s mysteries. We are going to Scotland to look at the nominal Roll of the Palestine police force and back to the cemetery in Lochmaben to do some onsite research

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Lochmaben Cemetery MIA Name
« on: Tuesday 19 June 18 15:33 BST (UK)  »
We started our research after my father died. His family has always been a family with many secrets - his father’s name was one of them.  We had a file from a visit to Lochmaben cemetery but it was old and much of the information was corrupt and thus not accessible. Thus we had a possible name and the fact he was in the Palestine Police Force and we believe later with the RAFVR and was reported missing in action. We knew this information but not a name or anything about his family. With the help of this and other sites, and wading through fragments of corrupt files, we believe his name was Robert Rutherford. I went though the online was memorial site and searched names, birth date and date of aircraft accident and cross referenced it with other sources. We then found his wife’s name and located two other generations of his family and one other generation of her family. However, there is nothing definitively linking Robert Rutherford to my father. So it’s still a guessing game. Sorry if you feel we misled you but we’ve made use of the information and sites suggested and have found information we haven’t found prior to know.

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Lochmaben Cemetery MIA Name
« on: Monday 11 June 18 15:01 BST (UK)  »
These are the notes my sister took when she was at the cemetery. We are assuming they are mostly correct.

New Lochmaben Cemetery:
Newer section:
“In loving memory of Thomas McMinn who died 4th February 1937 aged 63 years. Also his wife Esther Carruthers died 16th November 1940. Also their son Abraham G. McMinn died 21st March 1996, aged 91. Also his beloved wife Jessie D. Anderson sho died 8th March 1997, aged 88.”
 
-Robert Ruthersford sonf of John and Margaret Stirling. Robert, SECT. W/O. A. G. reported missing in middle east 22nd March 1943. Aged 35 years.
 

The McMinns are descents in my father’s maternal side. 

We have followed Robert and his wife Isabella for a few generations but without accessing the Palestine Police Force Nominal Roll, it’s a guessing game. 

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Lochmaben Cemetery MIA Name
« on: Saturday 09 June 18 15:58 BST (UK)  »
We believe his name is Robert Rutherford. He went missing in action in 1943.

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Lochmaben Cemetery MIA Name
« on: Saturday 09 June 18 02:11 BST (UK)  »
We believe at least one of his paternal parents was alive in 1941. They are both buried beside his grave marker. Alan G Smith father only has a grave marker in Lochmaben. It has his name. Missing in action. 1941. Palestine Police Force and we believe it says RAF. 

And he had contact with them until they died.

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Lochmaben Cemetery MIA Name
« on: Friday 08 June 18 20:54 BST (UK)  »
Mairi may not but her mother might.

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