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Armagh / Re: Loughgilly Armagh Toner quadruplets 1831
« on: Thursday 16 May 19 12:17 BST (UK)  »
Hi All,

If you see any McCormicks in Loughgilly (Lisadian Townland) please let me know! I'm struggling!

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East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) / Re: James Learmont, Covenanter
« on: Monday 18 March 19 16:10 GMT (UK)  »
Hi All,

Elizabeth Dewar was my 6x Ggrandmother. My line comes down through Robert Learmonth.

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Armagh / Re: Kingsmills Presbyterian Church - 1788-1988
« on: Thursday 07 February 19 14:24 GMT (UK)  »
Hello! Sorry to jump on your post. I know it was from a while back!

I am researching my direct line and my 4 x Great Grandmother Rachel McCormick was born abt 1811 in Lisadian Townland, Loughgilly Parish.

She died 11 AUG 1874 in Penicuik.

She married John McLean from Donaghmore, Co down and they had children born in Ireland & Scotland.
Esther 1837, Janet 1838 & James 1839 born Ireland, Margaret 1841 Linlithgow Scotland. John 1844 & William 1847 both Ireland. Then finally Archibald 1849, Robert 1854 & Alexander 1855 born Peebles, Scotland.

From a document I found on Scotlands people it names John McCormick & Grace Cousins as her parents.

Could my McCormicks be linked to the McCormicks you have found?
I look forward to your response! Thank you


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Armagh / Re: McCormicks of Lisadian Townland ?
« on: Thursday 10 January 19 17:13 GMT (UK)  »
Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church, so if she was Presbyterian then the 2 churches in Donaghmore are Donaghmore itself, and Fourtowns. Donaghmore has baptisms from 1804 – 1837 and then 1845 onwards but no marriages before 1845. Fourtowns has baptisms from 1820 to 1897, no marriages before 1845. So might be worth checking Donaghmore Presbyterian in the hope that it was her church. If she was born c 1811 her baptism may be there. (But the marriage won’t be).  Copy of the church records is held in PRONI, Belfast.

Thats fabulous - thank you so much for your detailed response!

Could I ask, are those records searchable online or would I need to head over to Belfast? Many thanks again

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Armagh / Re: McCormicks of Lisadian Townland ?
« on: Thursday 10 January 19 16:35 GMT (UK)  »
The person is the 1841 & 1851 census extracts also appears to still have been single in 1917 (no mention of any married name anyway).  I would say it is not the same lady as appears in the 1855 birth registration.

There are 2 townlands called Lisadian in Co. Armagh. One is in Loughgilly parish, the other in Eglish. No McCormicks in either townland in the tithes c 1832 or Griffiths Valuation 1864.

John & Rachel married in Donaghmore in 1833. Do you know what denomination the marriage was? The Church of Ireland has records from 1783 onwards (indexed up to 1844); the RC church from 1825. There are a couple of Presbyterian churches in the parish but neither has any surviving marriage records prior to 1845. The Church of Ireland records are in PRONI (the public record office) in Belfast. A personal visit is required to view them. The RC records are on-line free on the nli website.

https://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx

Thank you - and apologies for the bump! I'm still getting to grips.
I dont think the Rachel in the Census returns is my Rachel. I have attached Rachels death certificate - which to me says Rachels mother as Grace Cousins.

I am pretty sure that denomination was Presbyterian.

Thank you for your replies :)

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Armagh / Re: McCormicks of Lisadian Townland ?
« on: Thursday 10 January 19 10:17 GMT (UK)  »
Am I allowed to bump a post? Please delete if not. Many thanks,

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Armed Forces / Re: 25th Reg
« on: Monday 07 January 19 20:36 GMT (UK)  »
Hi CU

My GGF served in the 25th Regiment in the 1870s. They officially became a Scottish regiment in 1881, when one Scottish regiment became Irish and the 25th was given to Scotland, even then the headquarters was in Carlisle .

In my GGF’s day most of the men were English or Irish, as they spent a lot of time in Ireland. My GGF enlisted in Gosport and married in Ireland. I will be checking the Muster and Pay Lists for the 25th in a few weeks and will look up William Potts for you.

Ken

Hi Ken,

My GGGrandmother Esther McLean married a Timothy Hoolahan in 1863 - he was listed as living at Edinburgh Castle and a Private in 25th Regiment.

I dont think he would have been there for much longer after the marriage as I found a newspaper article for a few months after the marriage.

SHERIFF CRIMINAL COURT - Friday (Before Sheriff Arkley.) Timothy Hoolihan, a private in the 25th Re- giment pleaded guilty to using indecent liberties with a young girl on the public road near Milton Cottages on the 11th ultimo; and was sentenced to 6 months inprisonment.

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Armagh / McCormicks of Lisadian Townland ?
« on: Monday 07 January 19 19:50 GMT (UK)  »
Good Evening all. Thank you for taking the time to read my post.

I am researching my McLean line. I have attached a snippet of birth certificate from Alexander MacLean 1855 who was born in Peebles.

Please could I have some help with his parents John McLean & Rachel McCormick.

JohnMcLean abt 1809 • Donoughmore, County Down
Rachel McCormick abt 1811 • Lisadian Townland, Loughgilly Parish, County Armagh.

Someone on another thread posted this link; http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n7w/ to a census. But somewhere I feel like ive seen a document naming Grace Cousins as Rachels mother.

Please could someone let me know what they think? Could the Rachel McCormick on the certificate be the same Rachel on the census link?

Also, any info on John McLean would be much appreciated! 

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Marriage certificate help -Please
« on: Monday 07 January 19 19:20 GMT (UK)  »
I took a look at the Scottish Index site, and they have a disclaimer about anything written in italics (note that "Hains" was written as "Hains") as follows :

N.B. Notes which appear in italics above do not appear in the original records and are supplied from our own research. Alternative surnames (also in italics) have been either inferred as a possibility from the context of the record itself or supplied from other research. The idea behind this is to make it easier to find individuals who may have had more than one surname, but should not to be taken as evidence that the alternative surname shown ever applied to that person.

Hopefully they have kept notes of where they got the Hains!

Wow BBart! Thank you for that! Fingers crossed they get back to me soon.

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