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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Naval Ship Journeys from Portsmouth
« on: Saturday 23 January 21 21:39 GMT (UK)  »
This site may also be of use to you:

https://sites.rootsweb.com/~pbtyc/18-1900/Index.html

It would seem that HMS Osborne was the Royal Yacht and HMS Excellent was a gunnery ship at Portsmouth on the relevant dates.

Nell

This is great! Thank you so much.

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Naval Ship Journeys from Portsmouth
« on: Friday 22 January 21 22:35 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

Is there any way to ascertain whether these ships my ancestor served on from Portsmouth ever journeyed to Canada?

Duke of Wellington - Served from unknown until Jan 1873
Achilles - Jan 1873 until Jan 1875
Duke of Wellington - Jan until Apr 1875
Hercules - Apr until De 1875
Hibernia - Dec 1875
Hercules - Dec 1875 until Apr 1877
Excellent - May 1877 until Sept 1878
Osborne - Sept 1878 until Mar 1880
Asia - Apr 1880 until Feb 1881
Osbourne - Feb 1881 until Aug 1887

Any help would be much appreciated!

Annaliese

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Armed Forces / Royal Navy Journeys?
« on: Friday 22 January 21 22:32 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

Is there any way to ascertain whether these ships my ancestor served on from Portsmouth ever journeyed to Canada?

Duke of Wellington - Served from unknown until Jan 1873
Achilles - Jan 1873 until Jan 1875
Duke of Wellington - Jan until Apr 1875
Hercules - Apr until De 1875
Hibernia - Dec 1875
Hercules - Dec 1875 until Apr 1877
Excellent - May 1877 until Sept 1878
Osborne - Sept 1878 until Mar 1880
Asia - Apr 1880 until Feb 1881
Osbourne - Feb 1881 until Aug 1887

Any help would be much appreciated!

Annaliese

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Hampshire & IOW Lookup Requests / Re: 2nd Wife Mystery
« on: Thursday 21 March 19 21:30 GMT (UK)  »
It's possible that they were named Lawrence because Benjamin Lawrence was their father and as Ann Elizabeth wasn't married to him, it was a way of showing the relationship.  You quite often see this with children born to single women, the father's surname is given as a middle name.
Although, Benjamin does name Frederick on his marriage cert...


 ::)

An interesting theory! Although on both Birth certs for Benjamin and his sister Ann their father is named as Frederick Parkinson. But then if he was at sea in the navy I spose there is a lot of opportunity for shenanigans to happen!

However, the Parkinson name is the one that carried down the line so that would suggest that Benjamin believed himself to be Frederick’s son 😕

Hmmm!

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Hampshire & IOW Lookup Requests / Re: 2nd Wife Mystery
« on: Thursday 21 March 19 18:38 GMT (UK)  »
Interesting!! Thank you so much for all your help so far, everybody!

I have actually seen that newspaper article about the 2 boys before, however I have always discounted it because my GG-Grandfathers middle name is Lawrence and not George...

But you are right - that family look suspiciously like the one I’m loooing for. It’s intriguing that Ann May have married someone with the last name Lawrence when the middle names of her 2 youngest are Lawrence? I wonder where that name comes from - it’s not been passed down through generations it seems...

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Hampshire & IOW Lookup Requests / 2nd Wife Mystery
« on: Thursday 21 March 19 13:55 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

I've recently come across something interesting whilst researching the Parkinson side of my family. My GGG-Grandfather was called Frederick Parkinson (b.1822 Portsmouth) and he had 3 children with Ann Elizabeth Thomas: Frederick, Benjamin, and Ann.

Ann appears in the 1851 census but just as a visitor along with Frederick. There is then no more records of her as far as I can see. However, I have stumbled across a picture of Frederick that somebody else has put onto Ancestry. We now believe Frederick went on to remarry a Margaret Craggs (However, we cannot find a marriage cert) and live in Northumberland with a new family.

The reason we are nearly certain of this is that his naval service records match with his occupation in the 1861 and 1871 censuses we've found him in.

My real question is: what happened to Ann Elizabeth and the children?

In the 1861 census with Frederick and the new family there is no mention of the children from his previous marriage (and they would have been young at this point.) Although, there seems to be another son called Frederick through his 2nd marriage but the birth date is different!

I haven't found a death cert of Ann Elizabeth. Nor have I found the children in a 1861 census, which I think will be the key to this.

If anyone is able to help or point me in the right direction I'd be very grateful!

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Cork / Re: John Kenny Brickwall
« on: Wednesday 13 March 19 19:40 GMT (UK)  »
Strange that Gortnagoona would be written as a parish when it’s not! Perhaps a transcription error...

Shame that the records don’t go back further! But then again i’m not sure if this is my John Kenny. However, his death cert states that he died age 50 which would make his birth year 1842...

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Cork / John Kenny Brickwall
« on: Wednesday 13 March 19 18:08 GMT (UK)  »
Hello, I need some help as I’ve hit a brick wall with researching my ancestor, John Kenny. This is all the info I have on him so far:

Marriage to Hannah McAuliffe
St Nicolas, Cork
15th Oct 1868
Fathers name listed as Daniel Kenny

Child: Anne Kate
8th Apr 1870
John’s Profession: Private 81st Reg
Location: Barrackton

Child: Daniel James
22 July 1872
John’s Profession: Labourer
Location: 7 or 17 Barrackton

Child: Elizabeth Ellen
7th Sept 1876
John’s Profession: Porter
Location: 115 Old Youghal Road

Child: Maryanne
26th Feb 1879
John’s Profession: Pensioner

Death
14th Jan 1892
Age 50
Profession: Porter

I have found records of a John Kenny in the 81st Regiment, but I’m not 100% sure yet.

Service Records:
81st Regiment
Soldier number: 2614
Rank: Private
Birth year: 1835
Birth Place: Templemore, Tipperary
Birth Parish: Gortnagoona
Attestation Date: 3 Feb 1852

There is a record of him stationed at Rawulpindee in 1861 in the 81st Reg

There is also a record of a John Kenny in the 27th Inniskilling Regiment of Foot in 1871 as a Private with the same Regimental number. However I don’t know if it’s possible to carry over regimental numbers to a different regiment?

Any help in locating John’s birth registration or confirming that these are his military records would be most appreciated!

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Armed Forces / Re: 81st Regiment
« on: Wednesday 26 December 18 09:57 GMT (UK)  »
Oh brilliant! I think that might be him - he’s the only John Kenny I can find in the 81st Regiment.

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