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England / Re: Cr 10 seaman history
« on: Monday 28 January 19 19:40 GMT (UK)  »
Seaweed & Hugh,

Thank you both for your replies re the Cr2's, I tend to agree with your conclusions as I know my dad didn't make a career of it and as the cr2 was initially discovered through Findmypast it seems unlikely they would have missed any others.

Thank you for clarifying the "ab" on the crew roster, that seems like a very viable explanation.

So I am happy to have explored a chapter of his life that unfortunately I  never had the opportunity to disccuss with him in person. Thanks for helping make that possible!

Doug

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England / Re: Cr 10 seaman history
« on: Sunday 27 January 19 21:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Seaweed,

Just an update on my original query and a supplementary question if I may.

As you said he sailed on 2 vesels, the Metagama on the 29 sep 1926 arriving Montreal 4 oct.  Then sailed on Montnairn 5 nov 1926 arriving Quebec on 14 nov 1926. Engineer's boy on first, steward's boy on second, pay the same! All this from the source you suggested, thanks!

Is the cr2 issued once only, and I can assume that was the extent of his time at sea?

Also could you look at attached excerpt from crew agreement, notice the initials ab, his is the only one like that on both ship's crew  agreements and I wondered what is its significance?

Thank you!

Doug

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England / Re: Cr 10 seaman history
« on: Thursday 10 January 19 22:03 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry Seaweed, missed seeing that number !  Will try to obtain the crew agreements as you suggest. Thanks for explaning the documentation.

Cheers
Kayakjock

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England / Re: Cr 10 seaman history
« on: Thursday 10 January 19 20:36 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Seaweed and HMac for your comments!

Am I correct in thinking you have actually found dad's name as sailing on the Metagama? A quick look for info on her shows she was badly damaged in a collision off Newfoundland in 1924 so presumably she resumed service later.   On the cr1 does the 1941 date on bottom line mean a discharge was filed then?  If his initial engagement was 1926 that's 15 years, he married in '35 and I doubt he would still be at sea after.  Is there a document which would detail all voyages?

Kayakjock

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England / Re: Cr 10 seaman history
« on: Thursday 10 January 19 17:14 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Seaweed,

Thank you for your quick reply and wonderful insights, I am attempting to send jpg's of cr1 and cr2 but took several attempts to just get this far so hopefully will get it figured out..

The Montnairn was scrapped 1929 having sailed under multiple names so you may well be right about a short lived career afloat.   I believe you mentioned in a post that cr10 contains photo of seaman.  Is that to be found at the Newfie archive you mentioned?

Kayakjock

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England / Cr 10 seaman history
« on: Wednesday 09 January 19 20:36 GMT (UK)  »
All,

This is my first post as judt registered this minute after finding this forum discussing cr 10 which  I only discovered existed when looking for info on cr 2.   A friend pulled up the cr2 from findmypast and it has a number which seems to read Dis. A R 15511 not sure if an R and has date of engagement 5 nov 1926 and ship's name is
Montnairn which was at that time sailing under can pacific line.
The cr 1, has his name Charles Douglas Ross Merry dob 1903 and bottom printed line reads
(M4200) 11302/122 50m 9/21 1941 G&S 151 2
Reverse has declaration: I hereby certify that I have not hitherto received a Continuous certificate of discharge for the following reason: 1st ship previous voyage Disc. SS Montnairn
Dated 29 nov 1926 MMO office stamp.

So I am thoroughly confused as I don't know how long he was a seaman, I do know firsthand that he had at least once reached Montreal or Quebec but when that happened I have no idea.

Would love to know more about his early life so if anyone has any helpful info that might lead me to discover the facts and understand what these records are telling us (cr1, cr2) the discrepancy between dates and if tgere is a cr 10 with a photo out there I would love to hear from you.  Thanks for reading and hopefully someone knows more.
Cheers
KayakjockGD4ENB

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