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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Smithson christening in Wye
« on: Wednesday 06 October 21 20:31 BST (UK)  »
Hi

Thanks for the update. I had completely forgotten about this family so at least I can now confirm this date.

Matt

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Will of John Turner
« on: Monday 21 June 21 13:46 BST (UK)  »
If I could work out who this man was

You get a bit of a summary of the will on The Keep
Attested Copy of Probate of the Will of this date of John Turner of Tableherst
https://www.thekeep.info/collections/getrecord/GB179_SAS-RF_12_1_25

Thanks that has helped a massive amount  :)

I don't think this John is part of my Turner line but it was probably a will I had got a copy of in order to check.

Matt

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Kent / Re: Re: Knowler family
« on: Monday 21 June 21 13:44 BST (UK)  »
I have  Mary Ann Knowler, believed born 1832 in Chilham, Kent in my family tree. However I am thoroughly confused as she seems to have married one of my ancestors, George William Frampton, born 1843 in Stone Kent, twice. Once as Mary Ann Knowler in 1865 and again as Mary Ann Andrews in 1873. Its driving me mad! Any help would be much appreciated.

That is a puzzle. Have you tried the newspapers? Rosie99 mentions in her post that in the 1865 marriage Mary Ann is refered to as being an "Andrews" and her father was named as Stephen Andrews but in the 1873, as Rosie99 points out, she is "Mary Ann Williams widow" and her father is named as Edward Knowler.

It looks like there may be two men named George William Frampton who both married women named Mary Ann. One marrying Mary Ann Andrews [spinster] in 1865 and one marrying Mary Ann Williams [widow] daughter of Edward Knowler in 1873.

The last post by Rosie99 shows that there's a death in 1868 for Mary Ann Frampton age 26. That makes her born c1842 but more importantly it means that the two marriages must refer to different people. Mary Ann Andrews married George William Frampton in 1865 but died in 1868. Then in 1873 George William Frampton [now a widower] married another woman named Mary Ann who was named Mary Ann Williams but was a widow, and whose maiden name was Knowler. It's possible both Mary's were about the same age hence the confusion.

I see Rosie99 has been busy with her replies too  :) so I will stop here myself  ;)

Hope you are able to sort this out.

Matt

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Will of John Turner
« on: Monday 21 June 21 13:28 BST (UK)  »
Hi

Thanks for all those amazing and very interesting replies. At least I know I had read it correctly!

Is this place is anywhere near Hartfield? My Turners [sometimes Tornors or Torners] are located then and later in Withyham. This will is in my "Turner Research" file but I can't remember why.

If I could work out who this man was and if there was a link to Hartfield or if the places were close by then I could probaby get somewhere lol!

Anyhow  thanks again everyone.

Matt

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Will of John Turner
« on: Monday 21 June 21 01:50 BST (UK)  »
Hi All

I'm hoping someone can help here. The attached image comes from the will of a possible ancestor John Turner from Sussex. The problem I am having is deciphering where this John was from. It looks like it says "John Turner of Tableherst in the countie of Sussex gentleman" however I can't find any place called "Tableherst" [or any other spelling].

Does anyone know if I'm reading this right or can anyone say where this place is?

Thanks everyone
Matt

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: William Chambers
« on: Wednesday 16 June 21 15:36 BST (UK)  »
The index register where I found Susan/Susana (transcribed as Susna) is called the "Kent, England, Tyler Index to Parish Registers, 1538-1874" (ancestry.com collection #1901). But, I think that these is not the Chambers I am looking for.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1901/images/31854_A012200-00054?pId=39143
Source Citation : The Tyler Collection, The Institute of Heraldic and Genealogical Studies; Kent, England, Tyler Index to Parish Registers, 1538-1874

Hiya

That's the same index I have used and it's fairly useful and accurate. I have cross checked it against the PR and so far not found any errors.

Hopefully you will find your lot soon.

Best Wishes
Matthew

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: William Chambers
« on: Wednesday 16 June 21 12:46 BST (UK)  »
Hi Matt, I see that this is an old request, but I have something to add.
I have found an index to registers in Faversham that shows Wm and Farley Chambers baptised their children there named Susan (1777), Mary Ann (1779), Amy (1781) & Richard (1782).
Is this your family, because I'm curious to discover whom Mary Ann married.
I am investigating the family tree of Edmund Kean the actor who married Mary Chambers - this was in 1808.
I have read that in 1808, shortly after Edmund played in Kent, he then went to Gloucester and married Mary Chambers. This was witnessed by Susan Chambers, and I have read that Susan is Mary's sister. There are very few Mary and Susan Chambers that I can find that otherwise match.

Hi there and thanks for getting in touch. Yes that was an old post, I haven't looked at the Chambers much over the last two or maybe three years.

I have recently started to "re-do" my Chambers tree, not because there was anything wrong but because I lost the data when my laptop crashed early last year [just before the pandemic hit]. Thankfully I had a print out of all the info in the tree plus a partial back up saved on an external hard drive.

I have checked my updated Chambers tree and I have all the children you mention except Susan. Do you know what her christening date was?

As for the others, I have no other info on either Mary Ann [yet] or Richard. However I can tell you that Amy appears to have died young and was buried on 20 December in Faversham.

My direct ancestor is William and Farley's oldest son James Chambers [born 1769 in Faversham]. He married Sarah Shrubsole [born 1770 Faversham] at Faversham in 1791. James and Sarah's daughter Martha married Nathaniel Shrubsole Smith in 1820. His mother was Elizabeth Shrubsole who was born in Faversham in 1760. Elizabeth and Sarah were sisters [both daughters of Nathaniel Shrubsole and Elizabeth Scowler (or Scoler)] thus making Martha and Nathaniel cousins.

I have got back as far as 1614 with the Chambers but I don't have any indication on who Mary Ann may have married. There seem to be four Chambers wills at the Canterbury Cathedral Archives and I think I have copies of all, but sadly none are for William or Farley. Also I can't see any held by the National Archives.

If you think there's a link with those people you are researching I would love to hear from you.

Best Wishes
Matthew

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Smith-Cox Marriage Canterbury 1875
« on: Wednesday 16 June 21 02:12 BST (UK)  »
   I have looked on Findmypast, which has Kent church records on line, and cannot find this marriage there either.

Hi

That's where I checked first myself yesterday before posting the message here lol! I have also checked Familysearch but with no luck.

Not to worry though. I'll order the certificate as that will have all the details I want. Emily and Edward are not direct ancestors though. I recently obtained the death certificate of Emily's mother Mildred Smith and Emily was named as informant. The odd thing is that the death took place in Ramsgate, and indeed Mildred is living with Emily and Edward on the 1881 census in Ramsgate. The certificate will help me be certain that these are my Mildred and Emily. I am 95% certain the are the correct people but it's nice to have that last bit of evidence.

Thanks for checking it out anyhow.

Best Wishes
Matthew

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Smith-Cox Marriage Canterbury 1875
« on: Tuesday 15 June 21 22:43 BST (UK)  »
Marriage locator cannot find it.

https://www.marriage-locator.co.uk/cgi-bin/ML_search.cgi?year=1885&qtr=3&vol=2a&page=1104&search=search


It is my understanding (which could be wrong) that if that is the case, the marriage took place in a registry office.

Thanks for that. I did wonder if it was in a registry office. I guess I will get the certificate to find out.

Thanks again
Matt

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