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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help With Latin Manorial Record
« on: Tuesday 07 May 24 01:26 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Vance Mead on Friday 03 May 24 16:14 BST (UK)
This is about Richard Brett of Kennington who had some land called Chappell Croft. Upon his death this has descended to Richard Brett his son and heir.

Many thanks for that info. I hope I can figure out what the whole thing says but having the basic info is useful to know exactly who it relates to.

Sadly I now don't think he's one of my Bretts but he may be related.

thank you again.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Help With Latin Manorial Record
« on: Friday 03 May 24 15:57 BST (UK)  »
Hi all. Is anyone here able to help me work out what this record says relating to Richard Brett? It is extracted from manorial records relating to Kennington, Kent, and I think it is a record relating to his death but I am not sure. Any ideas or suggestions would be welcomed and appreciated.

Matt

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Mary Butcher [widow]
« on: Friday 01 September 23 00:12 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: trish1120 on Thursday 31 August 23 14:49 BST (UK)
Have you tried F/S for marriages for a Butcher to a Mary 1756-1764 ish.
Then look for children to them.
+ a Burial for that male Butcher before 1766.


If children to say Daniel/Mary Butcher are born after 1766 you can eliminate that couple.
Tedious but may be lead you to Mary's maiden name.

Hi there

Yes I tried that several times in the past but with no luck. I've only just looked at my Darby tree again recently and so thought I'd see if anyone here has any ideas as I still can't locate a suitable marriage.

As I said in my post I recently found 23 marriages for Butcher men to women named Mary but none are close to Hackington from what I can tell bylooking at the map.

Matt

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Kent Lookup Requests / Mary Butcher [widow]
« on: Thursday 31 August 23 13:18 BST (UK)  »
Hi all

I wonder if anyone here can help identify this woman.

My ancestor, John Darby married a woman named Mary Butcher on 21 April 1766 at Hackington (St Stephen), Kent. At the time both he, and Mary, were widowed.

So far I have not been able to identify Mary's maiden name or find a first marriage for her. Ancestry shows 23 marriages for the name "Butcher" to women with the first name "Mary" between 1755 and 1756 but I can't see any in the Hackington area.

John and Mary had four children between 1767 and 1770 so if she was in her 20s when they married then I am guessing she was possibly born in 1740s or maybe late 1730s. John himself was born in 1735 in Birchington.

Thanks in advance to anyone who has any suggestions or ideas here.

Matt

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Berkshire / Re: MONEY - Inkpen
« on: Tuesday 22 August 23 21:07 BST (UK)  »
Hi Sarah

Sorry it's taken me a while to reply to your post here, I have been researching a number of other different families lately and probably didn't even notice the email about this.

I will say that I haven't done any work on the Money family for years but I can see what I have that may help. If you drop me pm with your email details I will get back in touch and let you know what I have.

Hope to hear from you soon
Matt

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Will of Edward Cowper of Slinfold 1674
« on: Tuesday 22 August 23 20:51 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Zacktyr on Thursday 03 August 23 00:04 BST (UK)
Hi MattD30

I can help you with this.  So, if you have more parts you're unsure of, post away!

Hi Zacktyr

Sorry for the late reply here, I have been distracted this month by reading a few IPMs and recently came across what looks like a dispute between one member of the Cowper family and the Crown regarding inheritance after an IPM. I was at Chichester last week and I now have a rather large legal document to look through lol. Thankfully it is quite clear and easy to raed.

Any help you can give here would be useful. If you send me a pm with your email and can send the section directly to you. Or do you want me to send you the full will?

let me know what's best.

Matt

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Will of Edward Cowper of Slinfold 1674
« on: Monday 31 July 23 15:10 BST (UK)  »
A huge thank you to shanreagh and Bookbox

So it looks like my original reading of "Cannon" was right, I read it twice then doubted myself lol!

I did wonder if "Fower" was "four" but couldn't quite make out the writing. So a big thank you to Bookbox

Oh so it says by "the name of the Starr" well that makes more sense. I did wonder if it was possibly an Inn or some specific place. Thank you again.

This will is quite long [about 5 pages I think] and typically there are sections slap bang in the middle which I am either having no luck with at all, or which [like this bit] contain phrases or words here and there I am  not convinced I have transcribed correctly lol!

I will post a few more sections here and see if anyone can help explain what's going on.

Many thanks
Matthew

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Will of Edward Cowper of Slinfold 1674
« on: Sunday 30 July 23 22:08 BST (UK)  »
I am hoping someone here can help me with this part of the 1674 will of Edward Cowper of Slinfold.

I can read most of the will and almost all the names and relationships stated but there are some parts where I am not 100% certain my reading is correct.

In the attached example I would be grateful if someone could confirm what it says between "I give unto her All those my...." [see line 2] and the word "stationer".

In particular I am keen to establish the following

1] the word before "messuages" in the first part of the extract

2] the name of the Alley mention as been near the Great north door. I think it is either Common or Cannon

3] lastly the word written in the last line after where it says "by the name of the..."

Many thank for any help

Matt

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Translation of place names
« on: Sunday 21 May 23 00:00 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: GR2 on Saturday 20 May 23 15:33 BST (UK)
"Wt" is an abbreviation of "with". What looks like an f will be a long s, so "sowthesyd" = "south side". You are right on both counts.

Brilliant, thank you. I am working with a transcription rather than the original [although I have that as well]. "South side" did seem to be the logical answer given the phrasing.

Thanks again
Matt

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