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Thanks for that...
I cant find where Bridget and Catherine are related but I did find where Patrick Guttery applied for immigration for one male cousin and one female cousin from Galway to work at his 399 acre farm about 4 month before they arrived.
Original ship log states Patrick from Tipperary and Bridget from Galway...just maybe Patrick was a "tricker" and really from Galway
Patrick Guthrie and Bridget Fahey arrived 1861   Patrick married 1865 to Catherine Fahey..must be a connection
Cheers Rick

Yes this is from the shipping list
7 Dec 1861 Melbourne, Australia but contracted for Hobart
ship Donald Mackay Terrence Guttery origin Tipperary Ireland age 21 Farm Labourer brought out by Patrick Guttery. Bridget Fahy also on board 23 Farm Servant origin Galway also brought out by Patrick Guttery

Thanks again...for the links
found one at that parish called Ardfinnan however the parent was a Thomas Guthrey in June 1840
If I got this correct the parents of Terence would be Terence William Guthrie and Bridget
This should be the link for the passenger list

Terence departed Liverpool arrived Melbourne 7 Dec 1861 and connected to the ship for Launceston Tasmania 12 Dec 1861
recorded as a Farm Labourer

5 we go
James b 1866
Mary 67
Nancy 69
John Michael 71
Terrance William
William John

Hi to the group,

Wound myself into a corner trying to help a workmate...

His ancestor Terence Guthrie came from Ireland to Australia and looks like as a free man.

The ship Donald Mckay [in December 1861] reports him as Terence Guttery age 21 =[1840] RC and  left Tipperary

He worked, Married and died 1922 in Tasmania. All the Tasmanian information is available however the different spellings of Guthrie seems to be our undoing.

There are a small number of trees on Ancestry, and I see they have all been caught by the same person reckons born 1838, however I think this a guess.

Would some kind person sort this little mystery out for us Please, to confirm Terences parents and village would indeed be a prize

Thankyou in Advance Rick in Australia
Terence Guthrie/Gutry/Guthar/Guttery born in 1840 in Tipperary married Catherine Fahy/Fahey 1865 in Oatland Tasmania...they had 9 kids in 15 years

Well done
Yes I do know Dave, matter of fact I asked Dave yesterday what he thought the translation might be.Im Rick and live in Aussie...
That link leads to Kasachstan about 3360 kms from Poland...the 1900 census says RussianPoland.
and boarded the ship to NY via Hamburg thinking is that if I lived in Kasachstan I'd probably board the ship maybe Italy..closer....anyway managed to find a young girl that travelled to see her Uncle same place in NY she puts her origin as Czernskor OH Biez Gb. Plonk [Czersko=greater Poland]  and Bobrowo .. Gima Bobrowo is not that far from Warsaw and Blonk is half that distance
Ill have a crack and see if Joseph Celger/Selger born 1866 or 1862 can hide from me there
Thanks again Rick

Thankyou Erato,
The name on that link passenger list Josef Cegler born 1866 immigrated 1889 to NY to me looks like Lzuikowka ...Im probably miles away and confused especially after reading the links to do with the participation of Poland, been separated a few times....spent most of the avo trying to get Ancestry and google show me the correct spelling for this place....can anyone else make head nor tail of the place...I got
Lzuikowka,Laznowska Lzuikowa Szczynba and Liszuklew....I see some trees on Ancestry to do with Cegler/Segler they all stop at Russianpolish.
Thanks again Rick in Australia

Wow and Thankyou...
The newspaper articles explain a lot, problems in Poland and problems in NY making name changes necessary...Ive had no luck at all with their immigration 1881 my thinking was that their town/village would get a mention that Joseph/Josef and Jozefa/Josephine came from

    Jozefa / Josephine/ Josie S-/Ziegler/Cziegler/Cegler formerly Ceglerski/-a. (1874 - July 1945 Schenectady)
Appreciate the help...Thankyou Rick in Australia

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