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Just looked in Barbara Dixon's useful book (used to be a website, but that has gone now  :( ) and she says:

Where an inquest has been held it will say so although the wording for this varies through time.  A verdict will be given such as natural causes, suicide (or deceased took his own life while of unsound mind), accidental death. 

So, yes, it is possible that suicide would actually be stated.


I have a Scottish one, where the RCE states 'probably suicide while in an unsound state of mind'

Pretty clear.  :(


The Common Room / Re: had in hand the reputed issues of Ness and Chewardine
« on: Friday 20 May 22 16:05 BST (UK)  »
I think it means that Guy le Strange received the moneys raised from rents or any profits arising from the lands of Ness and Chewardine, probably while his nephew was under age.  This is common in medieval times.  A relative or guardian of a minor, or the feoffees is the deceased appointed any, received such sums. 


Armed Forces / Re: Coastguards
« on: Wednesday 18 May 22 18:13 BST (UK)  »
I noticed the next entry was for the child of a R N. lieutenant, and wondered if he was in charge of the coastguard. He was Robert Bates Mathews

According to the Establishment Book, he was the Chief Officer at Winterton in 1822.  The chief officers were generally naval officers at that date.

James Sneller was posted to Winterton from Dover in 1821 as a probationary boatman.  Both he and Lt Mathews were then posted to Lowestoft.  A new Chief Officer was appointed in 1831, but it's not clear if he replaced Lt Mathews.

James was back at Winterton in 1829 and in October 1835 he was removed to Caister as a commissioned boatman.  He remained there until July 1842 when he was posted to Skegness as Chief Boatman.  His last posting in 1845 was to Tetney near Grimsby where he remained until discharged in 1854.

(I used ADM 175/1, 3, 6 and 7 to trace him.)


Armed Forces / Re: Coastguards
« on: Tuesday 17 May 22 22:41 BST (UK)  »
The Establishment Books list the men posted to every station within Great Britain and Ireland in the 19th century.  Every appointment is listed and you can work both forwards and backwards, but it time to do this.  You would have to download each of the files since they cover different areas and dates.  If you know where the man was stationed on a certain date, then you can begin there.  The columns have reference numbers for each appointment, the name and rank of the coast guard and which station he came from and where he went, with the dates.

This is the link for the TNA files in ADM 175:

The records are available free as part of the digital microform project.  They are not indexed.

TNA also have a research guide here:

It explains about the establishment books and registers.


Armed Forces / Re: Coastguards
« on: Tuesday 17 May 22 22:09 BST (UK)  »
It was a new posting -"removed" is the standard terminology for this type of move when the man concerned kept the same rank.

The Cornwallis and Dauntless were what is known as guard ships, ready for military service at short notice. There were guard ships stationed around the coast near major ports or rivers e.g. Southampton Water, the Humber, the Thames, Leith on the Forth.  In the later 19th century, the crew were on the strength of the RN even though they were nominally coast guards.


Buckinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Pithers pre1810 Boveney Bucks
« on: Tuesday 17 May 22 21:34 BST (UK)  »
Eton is now in Berkshire, but in 1810 it was in Buckinghamshire.

Boveney church is on the banks of the Thames.  It is within walking distance of Eton (and therefore Windsor just over the bridge), and Burnham.  It is also within a stone's throw of Dorney Lake where the Olympic rowing competitions were held in 2012.

I can't see anything at the moment for William Pithers, but there are a number of Pithers families in Burnham and some in Eton.


Armed Forces / Re: Coastguards
« on: Tuesday 17 May 22 21:22 BST (UK)  »
There is a useful potted introduction to the coastguard service here:

By the mid-19th century, the coastguard were a reserve force for the Royal Navy.  Many coastguards were drafted to serve during the Crimean War and then returned to their stations afterwards.  The role of the coastguard changed over the century, but they played a role in dealing with shipwrecks - one who I have researched was known to be in charge of the breeches buoy.  He had been a coastguard in the early 1850s, having served on a revenue cutter for some years.  He joined the Navy during the Crimean War and was on a ship as part of the Baltic blockade. 

I see that John Pay was posted to Craster as a Boatman from HMS Waterloo.  He was removed to Kingsdown in 1863. Have you traced the careers of the others through the establishment books?  These can be downloaded in digital format from TNA, but the files are huge!


Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Birth certificate in Russian
« on: Tuesday 17 May 22 20:25 BST (UK)  »
Have a look at this:

This should help you.


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