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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Worwoods lookup - 1841 & 1851
« on: Thursday 20 March 08 02:53 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Bryant
My appologies, I do have a lot of what you have sent now.....so I am really sorry I should have asked Biker to change the Post to go with my worwood posts and out of the 1841 and Biker if you are listening (grin)   Appologies to you also. I will remove the whole thing in a few days after I am certain you received my reply. I still cannot find him on the 1851 census either so that was why I left it there. The 1851 might answer a lot of questions. But nobody can find him.

But Bryant I still cannot ascertain the parentage, which is why I posted for the addresses to be checked in the 1841 & 1851 originally.
The IGI gives John and Sarah as having a daughter Charlotte Elizabeth Worwood chr Rotherhithe 1816
The fact that the only James unaccounted for, is with John and Sarah in the 1841 census and the right age of course,  and he later lived in the same street, I am sure that he is my James....with John and Sarah
The marriage of Charlotte Elizabeth to John Fenton on the PR's does NOT state widowed so another Worwood researcher told me.
We have followed all the other James Worwood/Warwoods. One James (no middle name) remains unmarried his whole life and the other is up north in Staff and in an assylum. All the others are married to someone else.
We cannot find a Charlotte Elizabeths Worwoods death at all. So she remarried or married for the first time to John Fenton. We cannot find a death of a James Thomas Worwood the eldest either.
We have been through the waterman cd as well, collated and cross referenced and followed every one we can.
I really believe that Charlotte Elizabeth either lied about the father or the father was a cousin (the unmarried one perhaps)
and they were not allowed to marry. It said he was a carpenter on the PR
but a waterman on the marriage entry for James Thomas junior.
The family of the unmarried James are all watermen. So you see why we think Charlotte lied. I could go on and on with other vague proof.
But my Worwood cousin has decided to bite the bullet and hire a researcher. WE have a database of BMD's, and IGI, and everything you can think of, and cannot find any marriage, or James Thomas Worwood that fits, except those above. Put it this way we are doing reverse genealogy. If you can't prove something, prove it cannot be anything else. Sigh !!
Sorry for wasting your time hon.
The 1851 census might tie it all together but I have tried every trick in the book to find them another James and Charlotte, either or.

Cheers Pam



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Dorset / Re: iron moulder - Bridport
« on: Saturday 24 February 07 20:10 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Nanny Jan
Hadn't thought of that. And I used to send my findings from Pr's to that site. Spent entirely too long trawling PR's in London I feel. Getting forgetful in my old age. Grin
I will have a look on there and see whether the directories hold any leads.
Thankyou.
Sunny

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Dorset / iron moulder - Bridport
« on: Saturday 24 February 07 01:56 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all,
I know what an iron moulder does in the general sense. Foundary, pouring moulten metal etc

But could someone tell me what industry they might be involved in Bridport.
Bridport being a port, I suspect shipping of some sort. But what exactly.
They also went to Greenwich/Deptford and worked around the docks as iron moulders, boilermakers and so on....one son becoming a marine boilermaker, then engineer.
This is a brickwall and I am trying to come at it from a different angle.
Any knowledge gratefully passed on to someone else and received with gratitude.
Cheers in advance
Sunny


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Occupation Interests / Re: Waterman & Lighterman bindings
« on: Thursday 22 February 07 21:48 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Sue,
Thanks so much for getting back to me so quickly.
I was afraid someone would say that....Grin!!!

We got our CD through the parish website.
As far as I know he was not a mariner. I cannot pin him down between censuses either, and methinks a little hanky panky went on between cousins and they were not allowed to marry. My next step I think might be Carpenters apprenticeships, but I believe some records are lost. I may never know on this family. Sigh
Thanks again
Sunny

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Occupation Interests / Waterman & Lighterman bindings
« on: Thursday 22 February 07 20:41 GMT (UK)  »
Hello everyone,
I have some bindings, but I have a query for someone knowledgeable.
The Cd my cousin bought has bindings for over aged boys 1865-1926.

Was there anything earlier for over aged.
Why I ask is.
My James Thomas Worwood chr 1836 - father James Thomas Worwood.
On Baptismal entry father is a Carpenter, On marriage of JT in 1857 he was a waterman.
I figure he must have been over aged, as surely he would have been at least 18 at time of his sons birth.......
Any help greatly appreciated.
Attacking a brickwall with a toothbrush and a prayer.
Thanks in advance.
Sunny

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 lookup Griggs
« on: Thursday 22 February 07 20:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ken,
You live in Woodford? Well my Griggs were baptised Loughton (am doing the PR's for them now, just arrived at the LDS)
But on a few censuses they very between saying born Woodford & born Loughton.......2.47 miles apart according to Parishfinder.
So seeing as you live there a question.......
If mine were say born Woodford and baptised Loughton. The only reason I can think of is that they were baptised St John the Baptist. Does that sound logical, is there NOT a non conformist Church in Woodford itself. This would explain a few things. Any ideas seeing as you know the area.

So I will be doing the Woodford PR's eventually. Do you think yours have Essex connections?  I ask because some of mine headed off for London & some ended up Lewisham etc. Mainly the females,  to marry or after marriage it seems. Well so far anyway.
If you think so, I can report my findings on Griggs in Loughton & Woodford. Now that I have them by the tail, it's time to reel 'em in. Grin !!!!In otherwords, I caught up with them. Finally........one brick wall tumbling, albeit with a toothbrush and a prayer.

Sunny

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 lookup Griggs
« on: Thursday 22 February 07 01:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ken,
Well I am darn glad that's not my tree.......Grin !!!!
Mind you mine have led me a merry dance. If you find them back to Essex
Woodford, Loughton, Walthamstow, holler.
I just checked another chappies tree that I have, because I am sure they tie in with mine.....2.47 miles apart.
BUT nothing on your Griggs sorry. 
Have you don the PR's for your James to find his father?  Why I ask is there are a couple of guys, collecting Griggs. One has 19000 names or some such thing, Essex, Beds, Dorset etc and another that is I believe a one name study, mainly Kent though I think. Not sure on that one.
Cheers sunny

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One Name Studies: T to Z / Re: WAGSTAFF, All
« on: Wednesday 21 February 07 05:09 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all,
Posting my newly discovered Wagstaff, Thomas circa 1820 Gamlingay, married Mary LARKINS in Gamlingay Cambs
Children, George,  Robert and Tom( Thomas) all born Gamlingay (1851 census).
LARKINS, Cockayne Hatley and Gamlingay abt 2.47 miles apart.

Any takers?
Cheers Sunny


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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 lookup Griggs
« on: Wednesday 21 February 07 04:56 GMT (UK)  »
ken B
your James Griggs was baptised Edmonten, 1806....I know because I nearly "barked" up your tree until I found mine with daughter Louisa Larkins nee Griggs in Lewisham in a census......then I knew he came from Walmerstow Essex.......any Essex Griggs in that there line of yours?
OR Lewisham, Kent and Egham Surrey for that matter.

Cheers Sunny

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