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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: 94cM match with no tree
« on: Thursday 27 August 20 18:20 BST (UK)  »
Do you know anything about D other than his name? Sometimes you can make a tree for him and essentially backtrace to find out how he relates to you. I've done this a few times with non responding matches.

But obviously if he has a very common name and no other profile info you can't do this.

Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: 150 Cm
« on: Monday 20 July 20 13:48 BST (UK)  »
Do any of you lovely people have a DNA match of 150cm on your DNA matches that is a proven family member ?
I'm a struggling to find a connection and there are no other shared matches with this person.
Please no directions to DNA painter as the variants are so wide.
Any thoughts ?
Many thanks

I have a DNA match at a very similar level to you - 145 cM - although this person is not a directly proven family member unfortunately! I think figures in that area usually suggest some kind of NPE/half relationship.

In my case, my DNA match is a relation on an unknown/illegitimate line - her grandfather was (almost certainly) a sibling of my g-grandfather.

The facial shape is just too different for it to be the same person imo.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Found new living relative
« on: Monday 29 June 20 01:51 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for all your responses...

No, I haven't seen any photos of my grandmother yet though my aunt has said she will try to find some.  I've seen photos of my elder aunt who my cousin says Mum resembles.

Tracing my biological grandfather... how does this work with my aunt involved as she is definitely her father's daughter unlike my mother.  I don't think I'm going to go down this path as if the information we have in my family is correct, then my biological grandfather's surname is the most common name in the UK ;-)  whereas, fortunately, all the family on my grandmother's side is quite uncommon and easier to trace relatives.

Thanks everyone and best wishes!

Definitely take a DNA test (with Ancestry since they have the biggest database). It all depends on how many people on the mystery side have tested, but even at bare minimum you'll definitely get leads to go on via your matches. If you'd like any help with this in the future do PM me as I managed to trace an unknown biological grandparent through exactly these means!

The Common Room / Re: GRO orders for PDFs. Anyone received any recently?
« on: Wednesday 13 May 20 18:22 BST (UK)  »
I placed orders for some in the week we entered lockdown - received them about a week ago. Still waiting for another by post.

The Common Room / Re: Are you surprised by your findings?
« on: Sunday 10 May 20 13:15 BST (UK)  »
I wouldn't personally say I'm yet to be truly surprised by anything, but I am amazed at how commercial DNA testing has allowed me to deduce things that would've otherwise be totally unknowable and lost to history.

Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Why do people bother with DNA tests?
« on: Wednesday 01 April 20 14:13 BST (UK)  »
It amazes me how many people take the test and that's it, they appear not to want to learn or reach out when they get matches...

Over on Myheritage I have 5 interesting matches...

226.9cm over 9 segments (UK based)
87.4cm over 4 segments (US based)
86.7cm over 3 segments (US based)
78.2cm over 4 segments (US based)
68.4cm over 6 segments (UK based)

A ~200 cM match is very interesting to people like us, but I get the impression a lot of people on the other side are totally non-fussed because it seems very distant to them and they're simply uninterested in helping work out the mutual connection. I also suspect there's an element of family protectivity at play and they're unwilling to investigate the possibility of any impropriety.

Another more mundane factor, imo, is just that sometimes messages don't get relayed to people properly. Email account spam filters, site bugs (Ancestry has stopped notifying me of messages via email, bizarrely), that kind of thing. Also, there is a trend with older internet users where they forget their login details and end up remaking email accounts etc, so it's possible sometimes their DNA site profiles are linked to email addresses they no longer have access to. Btw, on the latter point, I don't mean to suggest all older internet users are forgetful - but you've probably seen first hand on sites like Facebook where you see the same person with six different accounts because they remake their profile every time they log in! (Technological factors are as much at play there - added online security measures, internet browser suggested passwords, Apple keychains etc - they add to complications if you're not technically savvy). That applies in the same sort of way to other networks like Ancestry/MyHeritage.

Thanks all. Have also amended the original thread title to include the name of the subject :)

I take the photographer to be G. Wynspeare Herbert from Gainsborough Studios in Lancaster, if google results are anything to go by. Have attached the back of the photo also.

Seems like Herbert was active in the business from the late 1910s through to the early 40s. I (in my total ignorance about historical fashions and hair) took the photo to be late 10s/early 20s, but looking for either correction or validation! Many thanks in advance.

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