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The Common Room / My Brickwall: 2 X Ggrandfather John Henry FARRELL
« on: Monday 10 February 20 22:52 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Helpers,
I have a long story which I hope I can lay out understandably.
My living family, including 80y.o. uncles/aunts and second cousins, have it that JH Farrell was from Ireland, but no one knows when or where he arrived in South Africa in the 1800s. We don't have and idea of birth or death dates, or places.
Here is what I know/sort of know:
1) JH married/common law union? Cornelia Sophia SWART. I have her Form of Information of Death from FamilySearch.org. She died 1934 Kimberley, S.A. at age 84, according to a son who completed the form [I think it was a son -could have been a grandson...?]- so I calculate her birth around 1850. This form gives no other information other than that she was a widow, what she died of, and where she lived at the time of death. Place of birth - Cape Province . . . ;D
I have assumed that JH might have been born around 1850 too, but that may be totally wrong -who knows!?
2) 1st child Peter John was born 1868 Kimberley - I have no proof. I have is Death Notice which notes he was born in Transvaal... ;D I also have a lot of information on his descendants, like children born in Mafeking & Bulawayo , and from as second marriage/union children born in Transvaal...
3) Next two children were girls, Maria and Nellie or Grace? Maria supposedly married Hendrik de Bruyn - I have no information on her. Nellie - I have one married to Robert Chalmers, on whose Death Notice (Zimbabwe registers) it notes that she died around 1898 - no mention of where, and no DN for her in Zim registers. No birth dates or place names. Nellie and Robert have two children who were baptized at St John's in Mafeking 1893 & 1894.
4) 4th child John Alexander [my ggrandfather] - on his death notice [he has 2 -family issue!] his place of birth is noted Mochudi, Bechuanaland [British Protectorate] 1882, and that he is Irish..?! I have no proof of birth. I have marriage cert. and all information on his wife and children.
5) 5th child Hermanus Stephanus born 1886 in Mafeking, according to his Death notice. I have all his family info.
I have noted year and place of birth so you can see how they moved about.
Peter John and John Alexander's marriage certs note that they were policemen, but professions changed through the years. JA worked on the railways, and death note says he was a shopkeeper.
All the documents I have I got off FamilySearch.org.

I had a DNA test done -autosmal. I have connection on Ancestry.com with 25 5th-8th cousins who have FARRELL in their family trees. I have sent them all a message. Those who have replied are also stuck/not searching further back/don't know more about their Farrell family.
Only one of these cousins has communicated more and we are trying to search more for our connection. Angie's great grandfather is also John Henry Farrell - born in 1853 in Tennessee, USA; married and died 1904 in the USA. [he was in prison for many years and had just one child, a son.. John Henry.. ;)
My hunch is that perhaps her great grand JH and my gggrand JH were cousins....  so we're trying to find her JH's ancestors. I found his Father, mother on Find a Grave, and more info on FamilySearch: her John Henry Ferrell was the son of George Ferrell [1827-1859] and Eliza Lawson Ferrell. He married Minerva Jane Murrell. (note it was then FERRELL)

On FamilySearch I found George's parents : John Ferrell 1780-?? married to Elizabeth Cook [some places just Eliza/Elizabeth with no surname -and birth date varies, approx 1789] They were married supposedly 1804 in North Carolina, USA.  I have children:
Alexander 1823 [I don't know where I found him to add to this family  :-[ ]
Alfred 1824-1864;   Jackson 1825-1876;  John 1826 [I also don't know where I found him] ;
then George 1827-1859;  Andrew 1828; maybe a Mary ?
This info I got off different FamilySearch trees [for the first time very happy to have found 'possible duplicates]
I want to know if there weren't children before 1823 since the marriage was 1804?
Who those children were, and what their descendants names and history was -I know that's pushing it...
I did see on Find a Grave a son John born 1802...   [I wanted to add a link but it would not paste] but he did not have a son named John Henry.
Alexander married to Annis had a son John b 1849-ish on 1850 Tennessee census, but I don't find the family on subsequent censuses.

And by now I have lost my train of thought, but I do hope there is enough information here to help me find my JH gggrandfather.
I appreciate any information that I can follow up on.
Regards,
Leona.


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Armed Forces / Re: Medals and Clasps under the army order, issued on 1st April 1901
« on: Friday 07 February 20 17:10 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks MaxD!

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Armed Forces / Re: Medals and Clasps under the army order, issued on 1st April 1901
« on: Friday 07 February 20 15:04 GMT (UK)  »
Let me know if I need to reply to each one seperately...

Alas!!!!  This man is too young. Information I got from the Anglo Boer War page says he was 24 years old when he enlisted. My Gg grandfather had 5 children already by the start of ABW. 1st child born 1868, supposedly in Kimberley, last child born 1886 Mafeking. The family also lived somewhere between Mafeking and Bulawayo [as known at the time] late 1800s-early1900s. That's why my heart lept when I saw the basic information.

Thank you all so very much for your time and looking the information up. I appreciate each one, and happy to have come across this website!
I am so dissappointed though, as I wanted to be done with searching, and also to surprise his living great grands who have no information on him.

Regards to each one!
Leona.

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Armed Forces / Re: Medals and Clasps under the army order, issued on 1st April 1901
« on: Thursday 06 February 20 22:45 GMT (UK)  »
Wow, thank you very much!

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South Africa / Re: South Africa Police (S. Rhodesia) 1925
« on: Thursday 06 February 20 21:36 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Doug, remember me if you do get information to share!
Regards,
Leona.

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South Africa / Re: South Africa Police (S. Rhodesia) 1925
« on: Thursday 06 February 20 20:45 GMT (UK)  »
Are the Reacords family to you? I would like to know the full names and maiden name of Helen, if you have it please? The person I am looking for's father was Robert Chalmers. On his death notice his daughter Nellie {nickname?} is noted as having married a Reacord.
I appreciate your response. Thank you! Leona.

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Armed Forces / Medals and Clasps under the army order, issued on 1st April 1901
« on: Thursday 06 February 20 20:06 GMT (UK)  »
The question has been asked and for the most part answered, but I could not get back to it after registering an account.
I have found on the USA 1910 census a page with a list of names of those who were receiving these medals and clasps. There is one John Henry Farrell, regiment number 389, who was present at the operations Defence of Kimberley; Relief of Mafeking; Orange Free State and Transvaal. This sounds very much like my great-great grandfather, but how will I verify and confirm that it is him? Is there somewhere that at least his wife's name was noted? His age?Date of birth? Place of birth? Death? The remarks on the doc is feint, and of course I don't understand the meaning of it.
I attach a copy of the page, and hope that someone can advise. Much appreciated, thank you in advance. (PS an error occurred - my image was too large)

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