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England / Re: Surname Spelling Variation: Can an "H" Become a "B" ?
« on: Thursday 26 March 20 09:11 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for your input. I'm afraid I tend to agree with you -- I certainly wanted it to be true but it does seem like a stretch for the first letter to totally change. Our mediaeval ancestors may not have known how to spell but they certainly would have known what their names sounded like!

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England / Re: Surname Spelling Variation: Can an "H" Become a "B" ?
« on: Wednesday 25 March 20 17:07 GMT (UK)  »
In fact there is someone in particular I'm looking for. So far, I've been tracing the 'Bauly' family (in and around mid-Suffolk) back as far as I can go, and I've found a 'Bauleie' from Wetherden, Suffolk, in the 1381 Suffolk Poll Tax. I've now found an 'heir of William de Bauleye' from the next-door village of Elmswell in a tax record from 1283. In terms of 'William de Bauleye' himself, I've managed to find a 'William de Hauleye' from approximately 1260 in the next-door village of Hauleye (now Haughley), so the year and the location seem to match up. I want to believe this is more than a coincidence, and that there was a typo somewhere here (a switched 'H' and 'B') that would allow me to make this connexion.

Anything you could add would be greatly appreciated!

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England / Re: Surname Spelling Variation: Can an "H" Become a "B" ?
« on: Wednesday 25 March 20 16:51 GMT (UK)  »
That's a fantastic resource -- thank you!

I see that h3-12 (pg. 22), and H7 (pg. 23) all look essentially identical to a b/B (to my untrained eye, of course!), which actually further confirms my suspicions. But of course I may be entirely out in left field here.

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England / Surname Spelling Variation: Can an "H" Become a "B" ?
« on: Wednesday 25 March 20 16:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all,

I'm wondering whether, in your experience, a surname could possibly have undergone a significant spelling change in one generation. Specifically, could the name "de Hauleye" possibly have become "de Bauleye" in one generation? For context, this would have taken place in a very nearby area, and it's the missing link in tracing the name in earlier years. I'd love it to be true but I'm just wondering how realistic this might be, keeping in mind how similar "b" and "h" can look in medieval script.

Thanks,
suffolksophist

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Suffolk / Re: 'Bauly' family from Hessett, Suffolk
« on: Monday 23 March 20 18:11 GMT (UK)  »
Dear gobbitt,

I am deeply indebted to you for your incredibly helpful find. In all my hours of searching I had never come across the 'Bauleie' variation, and yet it appears to be the oldest of them all!

Upon further investigation, I discovered that the (very) nearby village of 'Haughley' is actually pronounced 'Horlee.' This helps me better understand how 'Bauley' may have been pronounced 'Borlee,' hence the variations that are spelt with an 'r'.

In fact, the more I think about it, the combination of 'bau' is a strange set of letters that, frankly, doesn't appear very often in many English words or names. My latest theory is now that 'Bauley' may have begun life as 'Haughley' (also spelt 'Hauley'), and that a scribe made an error somewhere by writing a 'B' instead of an 'H.' This makes a lot of sense, especially in light of how similar 'B' and 'H' can look, especially in mediaeval script. The geographical proximity of 'Haughley' to the villages of Hessett, Woolpit, and Wetherden (all 'Bauly/Borley' hotspots!) makes this overwhelmingly likely in my view. At any rate, there seems to be a high degree of etymological overlap.

I'd love to hear from anyone with philological expertise or familiarity with mediaeval typos! ;D

Regards,
suffolksophist

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Suffolk / 'Bauly' family from Hessett, Suffolk
« on: Sunday 22 March 20 13:00 GMT (UK)  »
Hello all,

My family and I have traced our lineage back to the area around Hessett, Suffolk. Our surname 'Bauly' is frequently recorded there, and some family members still reside there. It appears to have many spelling variants, including 'Bally,' 'Balley,' 'Bolley,' 'Bailye,' 'Bawley,' 'Baully,' etc. It may also have something to do with 'Borley,' which frequently appears in Essex, and which could be pronounced in a similar way, depending on the local accent. It may ultimately derive from Bailey, or perhaps from the Old Norse word 'Balli,' meaning 'bold/brave,' in light of East Anglia's Scandinavian connexion over the years.

Any light anyone could shed on the Bauly name and/or its many variants would be hugely appreciated. We have a relatively detailed (pun intended) family tree if anyone would like to exchange information.

Thank you very much,
suffolksophist

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