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« on: Thursday 06 January 22 14:05 GMT (UK) »
Hitting a brick wall with my great grandfather, William James England and would appreciate a fresh pair of eyes!
Here's what I know so far:
Born 1888-1890 I have lot's of verified documents for him that all give conflicting ages/DOB
- 1911 census aged 21 (1890?)
- Married my gt grandmother Lily aged 26 (1890)
- 19/07/1918 Army discharge papers age 29 years 3 months (April 1889?)
- 1921 census aged 32 years 9 months (Sept 1888)
- 1924 died aged 34 (1890)
All of these documents are 100% him, I have been researching him for over a year and know that the people/places match accurately - but his DOB and even year of birth are conflicting.
Other info:
1911 census he was in Bishop Monkton North Yorkshire where he worked with his soon to be wife, Lily. His place of birth is recorded as 'Summersetshire'
1916 - Married gt grandmother Lily Banks in Ingleton, North Yorkshire - William's Father is listed as Thomas England (a coal miner). Lily's father also present. I have purchased this record so know it is correct.
Army discharge papers have him discharged on 19/07/1918 at the age of 29 years and 3 months. He was discharged due to Bronchitis aggravated by military service from which he died in 1924.
1919 - He and Lily had their first child - My great uncle Thomas William
1920 - He and Lily had a daughter, Doris (My nana)
1921 - Census! Living in Rainton with Lily and their two children, Thomas and Doris. This census says he was born in London! No other info on there really other than he was doing light farm work part time.
1923 - He and Lily have their 3rd child, my great uncle Oswell.
9th Feb 1924 - died in Ripon North Yorkshire aged 34.
What I really need is a birth record - I have searched through hundreds with no luck. Not sure if he was born in Somerset as the 1911 census suggests or in London as the 1921 census suggests. I have traced every William England I can but the trail always goes cold. I have no leads whatsoever for a mothers name and only know his father is named Thomas England ( coal miner) as I purchased William and Lily's marriage certificate. As I said all info above I know is correct. He has a brother listed on his death certificate - both from GRO and Army that states his brother either T or J England (i think T - maybe for Thomas after his father) who lives in Pickhill, Thirsk is the informant and was present at his death. I have tried searching for him in surrounding areas on the census with no avail also.
Any help would be much appreciated! I was really hoping the 1921 census would shed some light but its just added another twist!
Thanks in advance!