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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Samuel Housley
« on: Wednesday 28 July 21 06:09 BST (UK)  »
Daisy, thank you again, will check these out. Much appreciated!


Family History Beginners Board / Re: Samuel Housley
« on: Tuesday 27 July 21 20:26 BST (UK)  »
DaisyPetal thank you so much! I am pretty sure the 1871 is him, thank you! (He was born at Kidsley Grange Farm)

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Samuel Housley
« on: Tuesday 27 July 21 06:31 BST (UK)  »
Thank you very much, will  look into the one in 1871! We had already found the 1861 one. Many thanks!

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Samuel Housley
« on: Monday 28 June 21 19:12 BST (UK)  »
I looked through British Newspaper archives I don't know how many times, and missed it. Someone on a Genealogy group on fb found it. I managed to find it myself only by narrowing it down to May 1850 (once I knew).  It's almost as if Samuel Housley hides at every opportunity!

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Samuel Housley
« on: Monday 28 June 21 17:17 BST (UK)  »
There aren't any deaths under any variant in Staffs. 1861-91 but there are several in Derbys.
It wasn't compulsory to state if he was deceased on a marriage cert.
So pretty much an impossible task trying to pin someone down when they are transient & not
with other family members.
Not the answer you're looking for I know.

Thank you Jim1,

I think we've ruled out the Derbyshire deaths that we've come across so far.
At least now I know I haven't missed something obvious!

many thanks

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Samuel Housley
« on: Monday 28 June 21 17:06 BST (UK)  »

Wonder if you could give details of where you have the information that Samuel was in prison 1850,
For failing to maintain children?  Have failed to find in newspapers.

Are these the correct children born to Samuel and Elizabeth

Elizabeth sept. Q 1845
Mary Ann mar Q 1847
Catherine mar Q 1849. All registered Belper

Thank you for your reply. Yes, those are the 3 daughters that were born in Smalley/Horsley.  I looked through some 600 pages of Belper workhouse records and found that Mary Ann and Elizabeth were admitted in June 1850, the reason was "father in prison". I looked and looked to find prison records and have not found them yest, but eventually found a newspaper clipping from the Derbyshire Courier 18th May 1850: Samuel Housley, of Smalley, one month and hard labour, for neglecting to maintain his three children.

Family History Beginners Board / Samuel Housley
« on: Monday 28 June 21 09:04 BST (UK)  »
New member, first post:

I've only been doing this for a few months, and keep getting stuck with one Mr Elusive.
Samuel Housley, born 1816, Smalley, Derbyshire. Parents William Housley and Ellen Carrington.
Married Elizabeth Brookes in 1844 in Wolverhampton. Had 3 daughters before wife died in 1849.
1850 sentenced to one month hard labour for failing to maintain his 3 children (reason for 2 daughters admittance to Belper workhouse: father in prison, June 1850. My gr gr grandmother the youngest daughter Catherine born six weeks before mothers death was lodging with the Bennistons in Heanor on 1851 and 1861 census)

Can not find a death for him anywhere, but he appears on daughter Elizabeths marriage in 1873 in Liverpool as father (and does not say deceased, can I assume that means he is still alive?)

He was a plumber and glazier.

Can't find him on any census though!
Possibly on 1861 Walsall/Darlaston census as a lodger but has been transcribed as Hosty although looks like Hosly.
No sign of him on 1841, 1851, or 1871 census and I've looked and looked, and can't find a death for him either.

Would very much appreciate any help trying to find him after 1850!
Thank you

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