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London and Middlesex / Re: Oscar Graffunder - Hackney hairdresser b 1879
« on: Monday 09 May 22 15:36 BST (UK)  »
Thanks again for your information. I am totally in awe of your research skills.

That looks very much like Oscar renting the house in Popham Road 1904 for three years. That would put them there in 1906 for the birth of the triplets, then on to 366 Mare Street for the 1911 census and Navarino Mansions, Dalston Lane for the birth of Oscar junior in 1914.

We now know that Oscar is interned first in Alexandra Palace and then at Knockaloe on the Isle of Man, before being deported in January 1919. I have requested information from the Knockaloe archives but are there any records of departing boats of deported Germans? Would Mary Ann and five-year-old Oscar be travelling with him, or would they have been deported from their own country to a country they have never been to before separately? I am struggling to know where they have been while Oscar has been interned. Presumably, Mary Ann would have had no income and would have had to move out of Navarino Mansions. Various sisters are in the area (presumably the ones she thought were sneering) but I cannot locate her with any of them. The suicide attempt in August 1915 is recorded as "North London". I would have called Dalston east London, so perhaps that is clue?

Thank you for confirming that that death certificate is her. Does it give an address or a cause of death? (I could have sworn you had posted the certificate, but I cannot see it now. I didn't have time to properly examine it yesterday.) I really hope that her earlier suicide attempt is not repeated - she has certainly had a rough time, poor Mary Ann.

That very much looks like Oscar remarrying to Anna Margarete Bohse. Does he give an address or an occupation?

And finally, I wonder if there is any way of finding out what happens to Oscar junior. I presume he is still alive at the time the family are deported as I can see no death recorded in London. Any information on that would be amazing.

Thank you again for your help. I am extremely grateful.


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London and Middlesex / Re: Oscar Graffunder - Hackney hairdresser b 1879
« on: Saturday 07 May 22 17:30 BST (UK)  »
Ah - thank you for clarifying this.

How very strange...Two sets of triplets, both two girls and a boy, on the same street within a few months. The Graffunders give their address as 16 Popham Road. Could this be an address where women came to give birth if they had complex pregnancies? Or is it just a co-incidence? From internment to obstetrics - I have a lot more reading to do!

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London and Middlesex / Re: Oscar Graffunder - Hackney hairdresser b 1879
« on: Saturday 07 May 22 14:36 BST (UK)  »
Oh wow - that is amazing! Thank you so much for posting that.

I have emailed the Isle of Man internment camp charity to see if they have any records of Oscar Graffunder, but that looks like he was definitely there.

Also, I think I can see a death certificate for a Mary Anna Graffunder in Berlin in 1924, but it is behind a paywall.

I have requested a book called "German Hairdressers in the UK: Their Effect Upon the British Way of Life" from the Anglo-German Family History Society, so we'll see what information that provides. There appear to be many German hairdressers in Camden / Hackney / Islington, many with British-born wives and children, including the Poehl / Pohl family and Kitzendorfs. I have found a newspaper report of the father of Reinhold Kitzendorf (one of the barbers living with the Graffunder family in 1911) having his barber's shop in Ferdinand Street attacked in 1891, but it seems to be random vandalism (involving pease pudding!) rather than anti-German feeling. All these people drop off the records after the 1911 census, and I presume they are interned and deported or change their names.

I have come across one further conundrum. Oscar and Mary Ann's triplets are baptised on 9 September 1906 at St James the Apostle, Islington, with the address given as Popham Road. Their baptism is marked "private" so presumably they are very poorly at this point and they are buried on 13 September. It is also recorded that they were born on 25 August. However, there are several newspaper articles in early June 1906 about "a woman" (unnamed) giving birth to triplets in Popham Road. Why would the date of birth be misrecorded in the baptism record? The newspaper report must be slightly behind the event, so we can assume they were actually born in late May. It all seems very strange.

Thank you all very much for helping with this. It is all fascinating.


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London and Middlesex / Re: Oscar Graffunder - Hackney hairdresser b 1879
« on: Thursday 05 May 22 20:38 BST (UK)  »
Thank you both for the information. The article about Alexandra Palace is fascinating.

I will keep investigating, but they certainly seem to disappear from the records after the 1911 census. Mary Ann is the youngest of the eleven Jones siblings, most of whom are in and around the Hackney area, but she and Oscar junior do not turn up in any of their households, as far as I can tell, which makes me think they must have gone to Germany, either voluntarily at the end of the war or by being deported.

I wondered whether the other hairdressers listed in the household in 1911 - Ludvik Besta (born Bohemia, listed as Austrian) and Reinhold Kitzendorf (born Kentish Town, listed as British subject) -might offer any clues?

I also wondered if the Lutheran Church in Hackney held any records. Oscar junior was baptised there in May 1914 and his godparents are the Poehl family, who were also hairdressers who Oscar senior was living with in the 1901 census.

It seems terribly sad that Mary Ann feels 'sneered at' by her family. Although entirely anecdotal, Mary Ann's sister Eliza Thompson names two of her children Cyril and Evaline May, the same names as Mary Ann's triplets who die in 1906, which suggests that the family must have been supportive at that time.

Thanks again for your help.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Oscar Graffunder - Hackney hairdresser b 1879
« on: Thursday 05 May 22 17:02 BST (UK)  »
Goodness, this is such a sad story.

Thank you very much for sending this information. I will try and find some of the other newspaper reports. Do you (or anyone else) know how I can track down internment records? I am just starting out with looking into family history and new to all this, so any advice would be gratefully received.

Thanks again.

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London and Middlesex / Oscar Graffunder - Hackney hairdresser b 1879
« on: Thursday 05 May 22 11:56 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to find out more about Oscar Wilhelm Graffunder (various spellings), who was born in Berlin in 1879, but seems to have moved to London as teenager and was running a hairdresser at 366 Mare Street, Hackney in the 1911 census.

He married Mary Ann Jones at St John's, Hackney in 1905. They had triplets - Eva, Cyril and May - who were born and died in August and September 1906. Their son, also Oscar Wilhelm, was born at Navarino Mansions, Dalston in April 1914. What happens to them then? Presumably, Oscar senior would have either had to go back to Germany or was interned. What happens to Mary Ann and baby Oscar? Were they considered German by marriage and also interned?

I would also love to find information about the hairdressing business on Mare Street, which has two other German and Austrian hairdressers working there. Was there a thriving German community in Hackney pre-WWI? What happened to that community when the war started?

I would be very grateful for any information or links to resources.

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